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On Dec 29, 2003 I met a therapist who used Right Brain Therapy to save my life.

(It's always a risk when you tell others your story. I hope my story does not shock or offend or trigger anyone. It has been both terrible and delightful)

She met me in a hospital room where I was covered with 200 stitches holding me together. I had lost a lot of blood and was really weak. In suicidal hopelessness and rage, I had cut myself and nearly died.

We began meeting together and I asked her if I could get better? Had she ever seen anyone as "bad" as me actually get better?

I had spent the last 22 years in and out of psych hospitals, lost my job as a nurse, my new Camaro, and all my friends, had nightmares, depression, tried to suicide several times, and had become a severe self abuser. I lived thru more than 150 hospital admissions where I saw some awful stuff and was sometimes treated badly, I spent a total of 9 years locked up against my will due to suicidal thoughts and actions. I was now starting Right Brain Therapy at London Health Sciences Centre...up until then doctors flatly said I was not a candidate for psychotherapy. I'd had all the meds available, gained over 100lbs, and 24 shock treatments. I was only 22 years old when I first went into hospital and they gave me shock treatments. Nothing helped. The treatment only made me worse. I was young and didn't know any better than to agree to whatever was suggested.

When this therapist said "YES" I could RECOVER, I got angry and told her not to say what wasn't true, not to tease me because this was too painful and we both knew that people like me didn't get better. I thought I was asking for the impossible and got really ticked off that she would mess with me the way she was.
She answered plainly that she had seen others who were really bad off get better and so could I.
I couldn't let myself believe her but at the same time couldn't resist the words I'd been hanging on to hear. No doctor had ever mentioned anything about "getting better" to me...it had always been "Stabilize" and "Take your medications"...and "stay on Disability and ENJOY your life".

This therapist said I wasn't "psychiatric". She normalized my responses to abnormal happenings in my life growing up, said I'd suffered an attachment injury and trauma. But at first, it was hard to leave the psychiatric diagnoses and way of life behind...it had all become my identity. Normalizing my wacky life was the beginning of putting the past behind me and growing a new life. I went to many many therapy sessions. She taught me about right brain dysregulation and overwhelm, attachment injury, how to use mindfulness exercises to regulate my right brain and emotions, how to stabilize by connecting to my body, about dissociation and staying present, to use trigger sheets to help me figure out my thoughts and reactions and move out of trauma mode, to listen to what my body was telling me because it is wise. I learned to live in Integrity, to practice Compassion and Respect for me and others. I learned so much. In the beginning I had a lot of fear, had to learn to trust her, had thought blocking and had to ask for definitions of even simple words. My brain seemed to have been fried by all that had happened to me over the years. It was not easy to relearn everything and begin to regulate my emotions. I weaned myself off of all meds except a sleeping pill against my doctors advice Big Grin and that seemed to help my mind become clearer. No longer dealing with the med side effects decreased metabolism and increased appetite, I lost 80lbs over the next 3 years without much effort. In the beginning I needed her to do nearly all of the regulating of my emotional state for me. She said that External Affect Regulation was what I would need at first, but I would learn to do it on my own soon enough. I began to feel again, and I felt a lot of painful emotions. I thought my emotions just might kill me they were often so intense...but I learned they were just feelings and feelings don't kill you, they just scared me.

At the end of my first year of therapy I still couldn't see any progress. I felt screwed up, and dysregulated still most of the time. SHe had me write down "I KNOW I AM GETTING BETTER BECAUSE" and list every reason underneath. A lot of things had already begun to change for me. The list became very long! That was when I started to see the progress! It was wonderful and I believed I really would get better. I had several more years of intensive therapy. I did a lot of art work and journaling, looked a lot of fear in the face, processed many memories, and took a lot of scary risks knowing i had her support behind me. I started doing a University degree part-time, I started a volunteer job and got out into "normal" society again. Then I got a Full time job as a nurse again. It was mind blowing and so exciting to get my life back. My family and friends called it a miracle. I had lots of fear and lots of support each step of the way. I pushed myself ahead probably faster than I should have but the drive inside to get better was very strong. I healed the outside aspects of my life before I did a lot of inner healing, but that seemed to be the only approach for me due to my strong will and desire. I just completed over 2 years at my first job since beginning therapy and I am leaving that position (worn out) to finish my degree. I would like to do a masters degree so that I can work using Right Brain Therapy with clients.

This is transformative therapy. My life has been difficult but also amazing and has changed so much. I'm grateful to Right Brain Therapy for saving the life I was given (I have no idea why that therapist and I connected at the perfect timing but it was very cool). Now I have an awesome future to look forward to.


Karie
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Hi Karie... your story is very moving and inspirational. I have never heard of "right brain therapy" but it sounds a lot like attachment therapy. You were very fortunate to finally find someone who understood and had the tools to help you. But you did all the hard work and you stuck with it and came out the other side. You should be proud of yourself.

And I agree with you that psychiatry pushes meds along with the insurance industry. While they may help in some instances it should be more of a last resort and not the answer to everything. I have resisted meds for my anxiety disorder and have stuck with therapy and have uncovered so much of what was behind the anxiety. My T has talked to me on a few occasions about taking meds but I think he has come to accept my decision because we have been making progress.

Have you read the book Attachment in Psychotherapy by Dr. David Wallin? He discusses many of the things you bring up... mindfulness, learning to regulate our own emotions, getting in touch with and listening to the body. But he gets in behind all of this and gives the background of how the limbic system (right brain) works in people who have had attachment wounds from early life and what this does to our ability to regulate our feelings and emotions.

Another book I would recommend is A General Theory of Love by Thomas Lewis, MD. This book is about the neurobiological aspects of our behavior and how it relates to psychotherapy.

Wishing you much good luck in your pursuit of a degree. I have also recently returned to school with the support and help of my T. Having him believe in me shows me how to believe in me too... that I can actually do this after being away from school for many many years. He is my guiding star, my true north, so I understand how important finding the right therapist is and how much they can impact or even save your life.

Thanks for posting your story.

True North
True North,

Thanks very much for your reply. I have not read the books you mentioned yet, but I will look them up...Thanks for these titles. The authors I have read mostly are Allan Schore, Judith Herman, Pat Ogden, Gabor Mate, John Briere, Bessel VanderKolk. Peter Levine, Alice Miller, J.Konrad Stettbacher and a few others. It's great that people have written and shared knowledge on how to help this pain we deal with.

Right Brain therapy addresses attachment injury and helps clients by allowing them to experience what they missed growing up in a safe secure relationship. So it is probably just like attachment therapy. If you get a chance to read the work (research papers and books) by Allan Schore, he is amazing in the area of attachment.
They are calling him North America's John Bowlby . John Bowlby is the British guy who first named "Attachment theory" in the 1950's. Schore has built on Bowlby's theory and Attachment Theory has evolved into Modern Attachment Theory (also called Regulation Theory). Schore and his wife, Judith wrote a paper in 2008 called "Modern Attachment Theory: The Central Role of Affect Regulation in Development and Treatment". It was published in the Clinical Social Work Journal, 36, 9-20 if you ever want to look it up. I found it amazing to read. I also had the opportunity to attend a Trauma conference near my home last October where Schore, VanderKolk, Ogden, and others spoke. It was great and I talked my boss into going with me so we both learned a lot.

It sounds like you have a great therapist. I'm glad he's in your life. Good for you for going back to school...it is scary after being out for a long time. It sometimes takes just one person to believe in you to give you the strength to take that next step. I was petrified with my first few courses, I took some general stuff to see if I was capable of university level work. What I found out is that the older I got the better I did in school. It isn't as threatening as it used to be to think of going back next year. When I stop and think about it, I can hardly believe I'm considering doing a Masters program. I hardly passed in high school but after a few years of therapy I can think better. My grade average now is really high so anything is possible with therapy, I guess.
I like your quote by Eleanor Roosevelt.

Oh, I wanted to say I agree with you that the science behind attachment injury and how it actually affects brain function is fascinating. When I started in the trauma program they wanted to do a fMRI on my brain and then compare it with another one after 4 years of therapy to measure hippocampal growth. Too bad though, I have screws and a plate in my neck put in after an accident and it would cause flashing and a lousy picture so they couldn't do it. I was disappointed and so was my Dr. But the science and research is exciting stuff.

Karie
Hi Karie...Glad you like my quote. It was given to me by my T who is helping me learn to overcome the many fears that I have about everything. It has helped me to read and remember it and of course it is very special because he gave it to me.

I have read a lot of VanderKolk and know he is a trauma expert. Allan Schore's name is very familiar to me having seen his name cited in many research papers I have read about attachment. I will look up the paper you cite as it sounds pertinent and interesting to me. The one good thing about being in school again is having access to their huge library and database of Psych books and articles. Another name that comes up quite often is Dr. Diana Fosha who works with AEDP (Accelerated Experiential Dynamic Psychotherapy) and has a website with articles on it (google AEDP). Fascinating information and very apt for what I suffer with which is disorganized attachment. My T has become my secure base and my new attachment figure and he works to give me that reassurance that I need until I can give it to myself. He is not an attachment therapist and really did not know about this but we are learning together.

I agree that the neuroscience behind attachment theory is fascinating and exciting. The idea that there really is a scientific underpinning to all of this should be explored.

As for school....my T tells me to just take it one step at a time and not to look too far ahead (because I always get scared and overwhelmed when I think of all the courses I have to take and pass LOL... and so far I have taken 4 and am in my 5th now...with all A's.) No one else has believed in me the way he has and it makes me want to live up to that belief. I do think older students are better students for their life experiences and they are more serious and dedicated. I'm sure you will ace your Master's program. Good Luck.

TN
Hi Karie Smiler

I finally got a chance to pop in to read your story. Thanks for posting it. You have certainly come a long way, and I'm so glad that you found the T that would bring you back from the frightening things that you had to endure.

It's very moving and motivating to see that you have come so far and that you are planning to return to school to achieve your masters.

Thanks again for posting your story Smiler

Holly
Wow Karie, thank-you so much for posting your story. What a journey of hope and inpiration. It really is possible, isn't it. And you've done it.

You have given me a wonderful gift Karie. I too have seen amazing changes in people and many of my colleagues - except for my closest friends - think I'm just overly excited for no reason. It's heartbreaking. So, to see it in writing like that...well, it moved me to tears.

Thank-you again,

Shrinklady
Thanks so much for your reply Shrinklady.

Some days I forget how amazing my journey has been. I'm glad you "get it" because so few do.

I hope someday to use my story as one of the influences to help cause a shift in the way therapy and other types of psychiatric treatment are carried out in Canada....but it is hard to get anyone to hear me. I'm so glad you know how amazing this whole process is. It still blows my mind when I consider my life.

Too cool.

And I love your website...it's a great gift to me.
Karie
Hey True North!

I missed your post earlier, I'm sorry....I was in rush to leave for my mom's. That's where I am now....she is pretty cool...she is 76 and has a little Mac computer I'm typing on.

So you read research papers too, eh? My guess is that you will also ace any program you tackle and I have to say, I'm usually right with my hunches.

Thanks for the new website to check out....I love checking out any new info related to recovery.
It sounds to me like you are on a great healing journey with a good therapist. I hope you continue to do the hard things it takes to recover. I don't think there are adequate descriptors for the pain and fear (terror) resulting from these attachment injuries.

Hope to talk to you soon TN,
Karie
Hi Karie,
Thank you so much for sharing your story; you will give hope to so many people. I never experienced some of the extremes that you talked about but did spend years and years in therapy working through all the trauma of childhood abuse. My first T retired and it was when my present T realized that it was an attachment problem that my therapy really took off. I really relate to so much of what you said about your T regulating your emotions until you could. And that they're only emotions. I think my T must have told me that 8567 times until it started to sink in. And it's absolutely amazing the space that gets cleared out, and the energy and capacities that become available once you start getting yourself under control. I am capable of SO much more than I used to be.

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She normalized my responses to abnormal happenings in my life growing up, said I'd suffered an attachment injury and trauma.


This so resonated with me. It was my therapist's explanation that I had reasonable responses to unreasonable circumstances that really opened up my way to healing. That it wasn't pathology, it was development gone awry. It led me to believe that healing was possible in a way I had never believed before. I wasn't broken or malformed, I had just never learned what I needed to, and my T was willing and patient enough to teach it to me despite my fears.

I want to express my deepest respect and admiration for you. I know what it means to walk into the middle of those fears and trust when everything in you is screaming not to do it. It must have taken you an enormous amount of courage, and breathtaking drive towards a healthy life to acoomplish what you did. I wish you well in your masters' programs. I can't being to imagine how much help you'll be to people who need what you did. The whole process is hard enough to understand when you're experiencing it; it will be such a gift to bring your understanding and experience to other people. Thanks again for sharing all this.

AG
Thanks AG for your reply,

You are so right...there is so much room to live life and we get to see how amazing life is when the emotional stuff begins to heal. I am very glad to meet you and the others on this site...this healing journey can be pretty lonely.

I have great respect for therapists who do their own work and then share their knowledge and skill to help us recover from these nightmare lives we live. Attachment pain is the deepest pain there is, I think....I've often thought I'd rather have some terrible physical disease instead of my emotional pain.

All the best on your journey,
Karie
Karie,
What is right brain therapy? I was looking it up online, and got all kinds of other stuff than what I think it is. Is it basically attachment therapy? I should look into those books that you guys were talking about.

Thanks for sharing your story, and your honesty and candor.

Sorry you've been having such a rough time lately.

catgirl
Hi Catgirl and TN,

Catgirl:



I use the term Right Brain Therapeutic approach to refer to the information Shrinklady shares, she is great at putting this stuff into easy to understand pieces.

But I think that her Close Encounters of the Therapeutic Kind explains Right Brain Therapy in the most amazing and easy to grasp way....It's great to find this kind of info on a free website open to the public and it's worth reviewing the lessons I think, more than once.

- this is what I understand from the reading I have done....it doesn't seem that any other term fits this type of therapy.... we are now focusing on the right side (our emotion processing side) of our brain and RELATIONSHIP between client and therapist not just on trying to figure out our problems using logic (left side of the brain).

Right brain therapy understands that our emotion regulation is connected to how our body and brain nonconsciously processes what happens to us as we relate to our world. It teaches us to pay attention to our body's responses to what happens around us and our thoughts, memories ...as in butterflies in your stomach, racing heart, fluttery feelings or physical pain, fear or dread experienced by a physical sensation etc.

Right Brain Therapy focuses on what is said as less important than what happens between these two individuals relationally. It is informed by the newest neuroscience that indicates people can make remarkable changes through connecting with a therapist who helps the client grow new neural pathways (they have documented brain growth). This growth is "experience dependent" meaning you have to experience a positive relationship with another right brain (the therapist's) to make progress. It is necessary to use Right Brain relating to heal attachment injury but is not limited to attachment injury work....as it is used to process trauma and other issues as well.


It is different than the old more medical model type of treatment (as in drugs, or shock therapy) or psychoanalysis where relationship between client and therapist was less important. The therapy relationship in right brain therapy is like a substitute to the mother child relationship and this is sort of an opportunity to experience what you didn't in your relationship with your primary caregiver (usually the mother) growing up. It allows for amazing change to happen as you and the therapist relate in a healing relationship...and he/she is attuned to you emotionally and guides you along.

Research has shown that the limbic system (connected to/part of the right brain) is the locus of our stress response and because this part of the brain grows in the first few years of life, emotional stress in a young child's life affects brain growth. An early stressful negative experience is the basis of many emotional and psychiatric disorders in adulthood. This is where attachment injury begins when a child is overly stressed/does not feel safe and supported enough emotionally by his/her caregiver.

The right brain picks up unspoken communication from others, this is unconscious, not under your control. It's called non-conscious relational intersubjectivity and is also referred to as a right brain connection with another person. It is this phenomenon in therapy that can help in offering much healing if the therapist is well trained, attuned, and the client senses safety.

Hope that helps a bit. I recommend reading everything on Shrinklady's site and getting ahold of every book related to attachment/trauma....the research has been increasing over the past 20 years so much more in books and articles is available now. I'm going to try to get my hands on the book TN suggested ...by David Wallin called Attachment in Psychotherapy.

Hope some of this makes sense.


TN: Ha! Let me know what you think of the article. I used it to write a paper for school last summer linking Childhood Attachment Injury to Adult Suicide.

Karie
Karie you explained that all very well and with much clarity. Much of it I have known through my reading on the subject. David Wallin points out that people with attachment issues and trauma are very focused on "safety" in the therapeutic relationship. If they do not feel safe they cannot do the work. This was amazing to me as I had very often talked about safety with my T, telling him that I never ever felt safe in my life and that I was only now starting to feel it. But it's still very fragile and the least inconsistency on his part can shake it badly.

When doing right brain therapy or attachment therapy what it comes down to is that "the relationship IS the therapy". It is only through having this exquisitely attuned and intimate relationship with your T that you can heal the old wounds and like you said by carving new neural pathways in the brain.

I will let you know what I think of the article when I'm done. Work and family got in the way today. It does seem like attachment injury and trauma are interwoven leading to pathology such as depression and anxiety. I find all of this recent research fascinating.

TN
Karie,

Duh. . . I feel like a total idiot. I actually got the little mini-lesson from Shrinklady. I read it when I was totally sick, so I didn't remember much of it. I guess I need to go back and re-read it. Thank you for explaining it so well!

This kind of therapy is what is happening between me and my T. She is giving me an opportunity for attachment with a mothering, nurturing, understanding person, and this attachment is revolutionizing my life. I'm 37 years old, and I'm finally beginning to feel like an adult. I'm growing up. I'm beginning to understand what it means to be healthy, to be aware, and to make good choices for yourself. For the first time, I feel attached, secure, and loved unconditionally. It's an amazing experience. Now, if she'd only adopt me as her daughter Wink.

Thank you for your beautiful story and for bringing this topic to the forefront. I'm definitely going to get the book that you guys are talking about.

catgirl
Catgirl, Hi there.....I thought from earlier posts you made that your therapy sounded good. I'm glad it's working for you! Many people don't get that benefit so it sounds like you have a well trained therapist who gets it. It's cool to step back and see yourself maturing, eh? ....oh, I just realized I'm using my Canadian eh online....
I can usually tell if someone is from the states by the huh's.
Hope you have a good wknd...its a long wknd in Canada...Victoria day is Monday...the Queen's Birthday (old and now gone Queen Victoria, I guess) Whatever...I am rambling here.

Karie
Hi TN,

You summed up my long explanation in one sentence..."the relationship IS the therapy".

Yeah, without that therapist who was able to connect with me and support me emotionally I never would have made it. I am SO glad you have a good T....sounds like he's someone who offers a chance at a better life to you by allowing you to go through the healing process. Very cool.


I have done quite a bit of recovery work but I feel lousy some days. I am really having a hard time with this stress leave and upcoming job change. I'm off work in this small town not wanting to go out in case I meet up with a client or co-worker. I'll be glad when this whole thing is over. My new P is trying to be supportive....she works differently than my last T but I think its working pretty well. I find it hard to know if it's ok to bother her with phone calls but we talked about it last appt and I think she's ok with what I need. I am bummed out with this whole burnout mess, sad that I will be leaving my new nice house that I've been fixing up ...for renters to live in. I am still not sure where I'm going to live. I may end up staying at my parents house for a couple of months till school starts. I have a p/t job interview next Wed. I also booked a lunch date with my boss for one day next week to tell her the (good) news and ask her to give me a good reference. That will be really hard because I like her a lot and feel I am letting them down.
But I am keeping my fingers crossed.... mostly...I am not looking forward to next week at all. I have been feeling so down that I called my P late this afternoon and asked her to call me tomorrow. It's getting a bit scary.

Karie
Hi Karie...you have been so brave through everything don't let some new and good life changes scare you. Just think of it as a new adventure and that something really wonderful could be around that next corner. I'm glad that things are working pretty well with your new P. Did you terminate with the wonderful T who did the right brain therapy with you?

It sounds like you are doing pretty well with scheduling lunch with your boss and securing an interview for a part time job and thinking about school. Many other people could not handle so many things at once. You need to recognize how well you are doing. Of course you need some support along the way and that is what this group is for and also your P.

My T is wonderful and there are times that I don't appreciate him enough. I found him because he was my son's T first and then I felt this really strong connection to him and asked if he would see me for individual sessions. He deals mostly with kids and teens although he does see adults. I am just a very different kind of patient for him LOL...and we are both learning as we go along about attachment theory/therapy and about me. The best thing we have going for us is a real and deep connection. And I do feel that he cares for and about me and he really wants to help. He is also very ethical...although some part of me wishes he wasn't SO ethical at times (did I say that? Big Grin) You see I have a strong case of uh...transference for him. I really do hate that word. I have strong affectionate feelings for him. He sort of knows this as we have discussed it a bit. This had never happened to him before (at least that the client confessed LOL) and he was initially somewhat disturbed. But we talked and worked it out because I told him I need him to be my therapist more than I need him for anything else. I was afraid he would terminate me but he hung in with me and our relationship has gotten stronger and better through all the bumps and disruptions. At times I just feel like we are on a great adventure together and I have made progress with his support. I still have a way to go but I will get there.

Please keep posting if you feel scared and we will be here to offer support.

Best,
TN
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Originally posted by True North:

Please keep posting if you feel scared and we will be here to offer support.



Karie,
I just wanted to reiterate what TN said. I have been reading all about your troubles, but I haven't always responded, because I was sick for so long. As I read your story, I had you in my thoughts. So, I figure that there are people all over reading what you right here, and supporting you, even if they're not posting.

cargirl
Thanks to both of you. Thanks for your support.

Some days I feel small and scared its like it's the attachment trauma living itself out all over again ...and in the moment it feels so real, permanent, and awful. I think this feeling place with it's disturbing tunnel vision might be the place people get into when they suicide...they can't see anything else, anything of the bigness and goodness of life or that things can change quickly into something better.
I am always amazed about the fact that going to sleep at night and waking up the next morning can move me out of that negative place into a hopeful place full of my old, usual energy. It has happened many times. So I am feeling "readjusted" this morning. This phenomenon also teaches me to not depend entirely on my feelings....they are just feelings.
Hope everyone has a great day.

Karie
Hi Karie;
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I just realized I'm using my Canadian eh online....
I can usually tell if someone is from the states by the huh's.

LOL, that's funny you said that because I was just thinkin the same thing the otherday as I was about to write 'eh' in a message.

Like CG said;
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I had you in my thoughts. So, I figure that there are people all over reading what you right here, and supporting you, even if they're not posting.

It's true Smiler I've been reading and thinking about whats going on with you, and wishing for everything to work out well for you. I just haven't known what to say Roll Eyes It sounds like you are prepared for your move and though it's going to be hard to start over somewhere else, you'll do it! You sound like a very resilient woman and you will succeed Smiler

Be well!

Holly

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