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Hey everyone,

I have only been lurking here or there on the forum the past few days because of internet problems. I now have a shiny new modem, thankfully. I hope nothing in my post is triggering, because I know that there are things I'll mention that are sensitive subjects.

First, I guess I'll start with what my most recent dilemma is. This morning, I was completely floored (I stared in shock, literally, at the computer for several minutes) to find that my former T from the university sent me an email, said she had been thinking about me this morning, asking about my summer plans, how I was doing, and if I'd be interested in joining another therapy group being conducted over the summer. I haven't talked to her since my very short emails asking for references a couple months ago, and I haven't seen her since February. We have only ever talked through email to set up sessions, too, so I was just so surprised. Besides, I had just assumed that I was long gone from her memory, considering I only had 10 sessions with her.

I have no idea what to tell her. I got this email before my session today, but I didn't get the chance to talk about it with my T. I'm kicking myself, because I keep thinking that I should have brought it up. I'm afraid to say yes without talking to my T, because this just seems like the type of thing I should mention to her first, but then again, it is my choice, my therapy, and my T won't tell me what decision to make. I'm also just plain afraid to say no. It makes me feel so weak for saying that, but it's true - I especially feel weak, because I know that it won't be a big deal if I say no but I'm still scared. I think I still have a bitter aftertaste from my last therapy group, too, because I was often very uncomfortable talking. I never talked without being prompted first, and it made me feel like I not only wasn't trying hard enough for myself, but that I was a fairly useless person for the group. I don't know if I should challenge myself to another go around (with different therapists and different members) or if I shouldn't do it. I almost feel like I failed miserably in the last group, and I'm afraid to do another one because I don't want the same thing to happen, but I also want to try again and see if I get a better result. Ugh. I feel like I'm going around in circles - I think way too much about things.

I had my fourth session with my T today, and I don't think I need to worry about finding another T after this session. I have been feeling fairly numb the past few days, and I was all worried about what to tell my T, since I've wanted to see how she handles feelings…but I didn't have any. Anyway, I went into the session, decided to be totally honest and told her that I was "jumbled" and I didn't know how I felt. We ended up talking about some of my defense mechanisms against feeling and why I use them. She asked me if I had an image of myself when I was younger and there was a lot of turmoil within the family, and I only had a very vague one because I just can't remember. She asked me what I would do whenever there was severe conflict in the house, and I just kept having to say that I didn't remember.

I then said that I've pretty much decided that I was born this way, that I was made in a way that I became socially awkward, self deprecating, and afraid to assert myself. We also talked about my self doubt and where I feel it, which is mainly in my stomach, chest, and head. I had never realized that I can feel my own doubt, but it is true. She told me to try and see the doubt as a "friend" I once had that helped me stay quiet so that the conflict wouldn't get worse. She told me to try and just hold it and not criticize it, because it had served a vital purpose for me in the past. It's much easier said than done, because my self criticisms that come from doubting myself are so automatic that I don't realize I'm doing it most of the time. I went into the session almost completely numb, but I felt some very intense emotions being stirred up in session. I haven't cried in therapy before, and I never cry in public, but I was very close to falling apart today. I managed to stay together, but there were several times that I had to stop talking mid-sentence to keep from bursting out in tears. I know there's nothing wrong with crying in therapy, but it still seems very uncomfortable for me. I think I tried to get away from feeling that way, because at one point she asked me where I "went."

Anyway, I feel so relieved to have a good session with her. I have been worried about scheduling, too, because I started summer classes and a new job this week, but I have a session a week from today's session, which is so much better than 10 days.
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Hi Kashley I'm sorry this is such a late reply.

That’s great that you had a good session with your T and thanks for giving the details of some of it - I always love hearing about what goes on in other people’s sessions - apart from the fact that I am plain nosey - it gives me a feel for what CAN go on in therapy and that’s all really useful stuff for me to know.

About your joining a new group - it’s funny you remember yourself in the last group in such a negative way, as I recall towards the end of the meetings you were getting some pretty good feedback about yourself. But I also remember how the other members seemed to be ‘attacking’ you so it’s not surprising you are pretty wary of doing a second one.

I guess talking to your T about it is a good start - if nothing else that’s a good chance to work through how the dynamics of that group affected you. At the end of the day it’s how you feel about the whole thing that will give you your decision. But worth thinking about all the same!

I actually have a group coming up in June (I think!) it’s similar to one I started earlier in the year but left after the first meeting - couldn’t face going through all that pussyfooting around with other people’s feelings when I was in meltdown mode right from the start. I’ll give it a go but have no qualms about leaving if it feels wrong. Groups can be really useful and helpful and even fun but don’t usually touch on anything deep - well not deep enough for me. Having said that if I can’t find a new therapist before then I’ll definitely be going, just to have SOMEWHERE where’s there’s permission to be more of the real me.

Let us know what you decide in the end?

Lamplighter
That's so brave of you to be willing to go back to a group after such a negative experience. I don't know if I could do that. But I definitely agree that group therapy is WAY better than nothing - it was all I had for a few months, and it kept me from completely falling back into the same patterns while I didn't have individual therapy. And I'm not sure I would have found the motivation to seek out more individual therapy if it hadn't been for group. But it was really the most negative session that made me start to look, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

I emailed my former T back and told her I wanted to take a few days and think about it. I mentioned that I was in individual therapy, and she responded and said that was fine, that I could meet with the leaders to see if it felt like a good fit, and that I should also touch base with my T to see if it would be a good idea. I won't see my T until Friday, though, so I'm sure I'll have done a marathon in my head about group by then.

I also found that group therapy didn't get very deep with me. Not at all. I never once felt close to being anything but numb there - they would ask how I felt, and I would pick an emotion that seemed appropriate, because I didn't really feel anything at all. It is true that my last couple sessions were better, but it was kind of only because I felt so awful the other times - kind of like going forward 1 step and falling back 3. It seemed like most of the time I spent in group, I was falling backwards, and I finally went forward a step toward the end. Does that make sense? I don't know if I'm explaining this right.

I'm the same way as far as hearing about other people's sessions. It helps me, because sometimes I know I crave something more, and hearing about other people's experiences helps me know that I'm not crazy to want to feel more connected or whatever it is that I'm wanting. I apologize if you've written this somewhere else, but what's going on for you right now as far as searching for a T? Have you taken a break from the search right now? I would completely understand that considering how hard it has been for you.
Hi Kashely, thanks for asking about my T search. Have to admit there are times I’ve seriously thought what the hell why don’t I just chuck in the towel and go back to trying to sort myself out on my own, I’ve been getting such shitty responses from some of the Ts I’ve seen that I’ve ended up feeling almost totally defeated, no more like bludgeoned into defeat. But it’s just not an option because I now KNOW 100% that the only way I can sort any of my mess out is with another person. I hope to know more about getting back into therapy next week sometime it’s all kind of up in the air at the moment. Uggh.

Any further thoughts on joining that new group? I still haven’t heard anything about the one I’m supposed to be starting this month - oh well it’s not a huge problem just wish people wouldn’t leave me feeling like I don’t exist.

Don’t know when you were having your next session with T - what are her thoughts about you starting the group? Either way I hope you go with whatever decision is in YOUR best interests Smiler

Lamplighter
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But it’s just not an option because I now KNOW 100% that the only way I can sort any of my mess out is with another person.


It's so tough knowing that, isn't it? But at least you do know it, because until I finally digested that thought, I was totally content. Or, content in knowing that I have a few screws loose and I keep using the wrong screw driver to put them into place. Razzer I so hope that you get something positive out of your session with your ex-T. At the very least, I hope you can get some direction.

I have a session with my T on Friday, so I will bring up group therapy then - I'm a little afraid to talk about it, because it will inevitably bring up all sorts of self-worth issues that I find VERY uncomfortable to talk about. I hope you hear something about group soon...IMO, the waiting is the worst part of therapy, especially group therapy. And especially since you had such a bad experience last time.

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