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i have been dealing with an addiction to marijuana for about 20 years.
I am currently working with an analyst who specializes in treating addiction through psychotherapy.
I have been unable to stop smoking dope in the last several months and in the previous years, I was only able to when I stopped therapy and went to AA and stopped for 18 months.
In the past, I also tried therapy to help with this and therapy was so triggering that I kept on smoking. My therapist keeps telling me I am holding other people responsible for a change I need to make myself. He is right but knowing this doesn’t make me do anything differently. it almost makes me more hopeless because i can see it and i see how little i care that im doing it. i see how little regard i have for myself.

To make this all more interesting, my doctor recently told me that my lungs are compromised from years of smoking and I need to stop to prevent further damage. When I did not stop and came in for a follow up he simply said to me “look, youll be much better off if you stop. If you don’t, its not certain, but its highly likely you will die of lung disease. You already have asthma and youre in a high risk group.” This was 2 months ago. I still haven’t stopped. I am terrified.

So I tell my therapist that maybe I cant stop while in therapy and he says ok what will you do and I say I will go to AA. He says AA rarely works and ive shown that it doesn’t work for me because after that year and a half, I kept going to AA but it wasn’t working. I told him it didn’t work because therapy was driving me nuts. And he says youre passing the buck, its not therapies responsibility its yours.

Anyways, this feels like a big circle that wont end. Ill talk to him about this but im concerned if I trust him and try to solve this while in therapy, it wont work and ill end up getting lung disease and being truly screwed. And I have tried AA while in therapy and they are so at odds with each other, philopsphically that its hard to do both.
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Hi DaRock,

This sounds like such a hard place to be in. I’ve never been “addicted” to pot, but I’ve certainly smoked my share, and I totally understand the need to keep smoking it, even when it is not in your best interest to do so.

You may very well be “holding other people responsible for a change you need to make yourself”, but the fact remains that you’ve been in therapy with this guy for several months and are still smoking weed. Given the imminent health problems you are facing, I would think that going with AA, which has worked for you in the past, is the way to go, even if AA didn’t permanently solve your problem.

It seems to me that right now you are using the pot to deal with all the feelings that come up in therapy, and in order to actually stop smoking pot, you are going to need another way to deal. Has your T offered any alternative to smoking pot?

If you do stay with your current T, have you thought about other methods of getting your THC fix, like using a vaporizer instead of smoking? Or maybe making some pot brownies (I know the high is different when it is ingested versus smoked, but it may work for you, and would certainly be better for your lungs.)

-Bee
Hi Bee. Thanks for such a supportive response. It sounds like you do get it.
I am going to plug back into AA in the short term. I made a call today to a guy who used to sponsor me. Ill hit some meetings this weekend.
I also cooked up the rest of what I had into butter for toast. That's way healthier.

My current T tells me that its not necessary that I find a replacement in terms of behavior, he thinks that when the desire comes up to smoke, its a psychological symptom, a response to feeling anger at feeling helpless. so he just keeps telling me that when the desire comes up, i need to analyze whats causing it and address that cause. thats not always possible but in times that its not, you can predict the onset of the urge during those times usually. its not random.

anyways, he keeps telling me that the reason its hard for me to do that is bec. i get caught in thinking im bad or someone else is bad and that kind of polarized thinking prevents me from analyzing the cause of the urge to smoke.

thats complicated but...hopefully w. that and AA i will nail this down by the end of the weekend.
I relate to the idea that therapy can trigger the "need" to give into an addiction. I had the same issue with my past therapist, who brough about so much pain in me, that I felt I "had to" have a drink...often. There has to be a better way for the therapist to contain the pain that comes up in therapy, and be supportive for you when you are tempted to smoke? surely. Isn't that what we pay them the big bucks for?

BB
hi blackbird. wow. that is so intense. how did you resolve the issue with the therapist who brought about so much pain in you that you felt as though you had to drink?
i have now had this problem with 3 therapists in a row over the span of 6 years.
i am seriously considering just bailing out of therapy. the thing this therapist does to contain it is to focus on my idea that i feel i cannot contain it and try to help me see that i can.
so far that hasnt worked and i said to him it wouldnt work and he said "what makes you think it wont work just because it hasnt yet?"
so he gives me hope i can stop and stay in therapy but so far it feels like it certainly hasnt happened and it doesnt feel like something that is worth allowing to continue down a bad path. but i dont know what my other options are.
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how did you resolve the issue with the therapist who brought about so much pain in you that you felt as though you had to drink?


DaRock...you are not going to like my answer. My answer is: I left.

Now I am with a therapist who does not provoke transference in me, at least not so strongly. He give me ideas, but he is not everything to me...not at all. within this framework, I can deal, because the pain in my everyday life is enough, without bringing back the pain of the past to contend with, too. i like my current T. I can't deal with transference pain right now. It's too much for me to handle, with everything else I am dealing with.

Do I still drink? yup. But it is not as all-consuming as it was when I was with my "guru T." Then, it controlled me. Now it is more occassional. Am I proud of it? Nope. do I want to stop? yup. But I am trusting that, as the AD's begin to work more and more, and that as I grow, it will be possible to let it go. Ask for grace. Ask for grace.

Hugs, you-

BB
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i am seriously considering just bailing out of therapy. the thing this therapist does to contain it is to focus on my idea that i feel i cannot contain it and try to help me see that i can.


one more thing....how can your therapist say that "you can contain it" when you are telling him, that you cannot? That seems to me, a copout on his part. Ask him, if you can call on him when you are tempted to smoke. his answer may go a long way towards telling you, if he has what it takes to help you stop. (real committment to his clients, beyond the hour he gets paid for) My T will let me call him if I need to- but it will be on the clock, which I have no problem with. But he is available. Nice to know.

I *greatly* admire your ability to see that the smoking isn't helping yourself. That shows great honesty and committment to yourself....and a desire to be kind to YOU.

With respect,

BB

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