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I haven't been around much but therapy has been progressing with difficulty as usual. Last week I had a conversation with my T where I told him that I felt like I couldn't talk about my feelings because all I did was complain. I also said I knew what he was or wasn't willing to do so there was no point in complaining. He seemed confused by this and eventually we reached the point where I told him that when I get upset what comes up for me is me wanting something from him. It might be him to say something reassuring about his own feeling or reaction to me or it might be some action (like moving close to me or me taking an object home from his office). He seemed surprised and asked if I didn't feel like I was being abandoned or ignored or XXX and therefore I was asking him to do an action to respond to that feeling. I said no I just wished he would do something. Identifying a feeling that was related to my wish came later sometimes and I get stuck at the wishing stage because I know he won't do certain things (like move closer to me or touch or volunteer reassurance). He will however reassure me if I can be very specific about what I want reassurance about (does he realize how much I depend on him and is he okay with that? for example.) Of course articulating clearly is not something I can do when I'm upset so I feel like the only way I can do therapy is to keep from being too upset but that doesn't work either.

Does anyone else not know how they feel even while they want someone to do something? I feel so needy when I just want something from my T and I'm ashamed to tell him unless I can explain why I want it and why he should do it. Any advice on how to work through things like this?
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My T helps me identify the feelings if I'm unsure, rather than my always needing to know. Explore it any way... Since she can't tell me how I feel. Sometimes I know if I track my body sensations. I can't and have no clue how each feeling can be resolved.

The worst part though... is that I think expecting someone to do something takes away the responsibility to our own feelings. Much like alcoholism where someone might feel upset, expect others to do something to fix them (or blame others for their stress) and it gives them an excuse to use alcohol rather than address their feelings. An ED can work much the same depending on a person's functioning style and defenses.

I think avoiding being upset, though you will not get to feel your feelings and not learn to identify them Frowner

What would you think about talking to your T about what you would like ahead of time? I know you know what he is willing to do on some fronts... Maybe you can discuss how to use what he can provide to sooth when you are upset? Unfortunately, our feelings cannot make others change, and they cannot make people break boundaries.

I asked my T once to just tell me the one thing that would fix everything. And she didn't (and couldn't) but I was convinced she had the secret recipe. It felt cruel and withholding and like I couldn't feel because she had the answer to what I could do and refused to give it to me... And I believed it would solve everything.

What I learned from her, and my other T was... If I don't go through the intensity I'll never learn to feel, or deal with intensity. You may only learn how to get needs met by going through this?

Do you think being upset in general gets intensified to the point of overwhelm because feeling alone or not rescued or scared or something like that comes up?

Hug two

Do you think if things were offered you could say yes OR no? T may be trying to work within that too? I don't know Frowner it took so long to trust my T to be there... So so long. It hurts.
((((COGS)))

So nice to see you.

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Does anyone else not know how they feel even while they want someone to do something?


Uh, yeah. When my feelings are so intense, I can't "see" them. I only seem motivated to try to stuff them or try to get them met. Usually, in the past, it was to stuff them so, yes, it's hard to understand them when you can't "see" them. Maybe when you can let go some of the shame, you will be able to let yourself feel them and then you will be able to see them and identify them. That's the way it happened for me. Now when I feel a certain way, I say to myself, "oh, that's such and such and that must mean I want this or that but what I really need to do is this and wait it out a little." It's hard.

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