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Our couples T has used this diagram in our last couple of sessions to help us understand our attachment styles. He also used it to explain why we found the simple homework he gave us (stopping what we are doing to hug and kiss whenever we have been apart for more than a few minutes) so incredibly effective. I wanted to share this diagram, and the general website, because it incorporates all the principles about attachment theory that have been shared on this forum (particularly by the person whose name reflects her passion Big Grin ), so in a sense, it's really nothing "new", just another way of looking at it. I've read a description of this diagram as a "user-friendly" application of attachment theory. I think I just literally needed someone to "draw me a picture" (among other things). Big Grin

Circle of Security diagram

Circle of Security website

This particular approach is really focused more on early intervention of at-risk parent-child relationships. And I will definitely be able to use it to improve my relationships with my girls, it is already starting to help there too. What I like about our T using it with us in our couples work is that it so clearly shows something AG has been saying, that when we don't get what we need as kids, we keep looking for it as adults. Also, that what we long for is to be expected, we are hard-wired for relationships, to be "delighted in" (huge missing piece for both of us), and it is not bad to want these things. But when we didn't get them, we developed ways of coping and keeping ourselves safe. And those ways of coping aren't needed anymore...in fact that is what has been getting in the way of our connection all along. And I cannot even tell you how jazzed I am to see the possibility of a connection when for so long I've been convinced there never was one.

In our case, both my husband and I had upbringings where we were strongly encouraged to move away from our caregivers, in fact they were only too happy for us to take care of ourselves...so the "welcome back" part of the circle was weak or missing entirely, for a variety of reasons. So both of us developed an "avoidant" attachment pattern, where we send out signals that we are ready to move away, when really what we need is to "return"...but we learned a long time ago, that need would not be met...so we shut down and move away when we really need to be close.

This is what has been driving me absolutely nuts with my husband. On some level I could tell he was "avoiding" me but I could not pinpoint it or figure out why it bugged me so much. I have been feeling what I thought was "angry", all of the time, like whenever he walked into the room, and I have not been understanding why or what to do about it whatsoever. In our last session, I told our T that I can't believe what a difference just greeting each other when we come back together has made, it is such a relief not to feel inexplicably "angry" all of the time. It is hard not to feel like we are on cloud nine right now (I'm sorry I don't mean to be sickening...it just feels so good not to be weighted down with invisible rocks anymore...so I hope you will forgive if I'm a little bubbly!).

Then our couples T clarified for me, what I have been feeling probably isn't "anger" in the true sense, such as anger at injustice, but rather, it is the state of "protest" that an infant will express when they have a need. When a child has a need, they let their caregiver know in some way...such as an infant crying. The attachment depends on the caregiver recognizing and meeting the need. But if their signal is not responded to, eventually the child will stop protesting and move into a state of despair, and then into a state of detachment. All of that was on a different diagram.

Folks, I swear, this is EXACTLY what I've been doing with my husband!! It wasn't anger at all, that's why I couldn't figure it out. And I was definitely not bothering to "protest", because on some level I was sure it wouldn't be met, and then moving right into despair and detachment...even to the point of pining for an attachment from a quarter of a century ago. And although I can't really "remember" ever developing this pattern with my parents, it is the ONLY way I EVER remember relating to them at all. I thought it was "just the way I was." What good news that maybe I was never really supposed to be that way at all. Explains a lot!!!

Now that my husband and I are starting to do something different, things are changing...and we just started, I know we have a long way to go yet...but just not to have that haze of inexplicable agitation, the raging need for intimacy and an equally raging need to run away screaming...I just can't express enough what a relief it is to have it so drastically reduced with something so simple. And yet it feels exactly right, like exactly what I've been trying to ask for, I just didn't have any idea how. And now the "rest" of the stuff we have to work on, which is a lot, looks so much more possible now that all my energy isn't getting drained away with unexpressed "protesting", despair, and detachment.

Thanks for letting me share this!

SG
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SG..thanks for this very enlighting post and the website. I'm going off to study it some more. As you know I'm really into attachment knowledge and information and I would love to share these diagrams with my T as a great visual of what I have been talking about or trying to explain to him. The attachment stuff does not seem to scare him as much and he sees my attachment to him as something positive and should not be tampered with.

Can you link or direct me to the other diagram you mention about the child going into protest and despair. I'd like to print out that one too.

Thanks so much for this. I'll be back to comment further at another time.

Hug TN
reallly good stuff, strummergirl. it makes sense, i too, like TN, would love to see the despair direction. i printed this out and am just learning about all this attachment stuff. didn't realy know this was my deal, it was all such a fog, but, see attachment is so central to my stuff. always been looking for that big sister to show me the ropes. and desparate when acquaintances give me the brush off (they probably didn't even see me but that is how i interpret it). this desparate need to attach, to run and crawl up in the lap of the next person nice to me, to tell them i love them and i just 'know' they are all i expect them to be. then, the inevitable crash. the let down, then the wall of defense as (the pouting child, defiant) says i don't need ANY OF YOU!! f off!! i am an island all of myself....then i reach out again. jump in the lap of the next nice person and begin the cycle.

i don't for the life of me know why i have a good marriage and he does not react in these codependent ways. it is a gift from God, i know that that is a stable force.

oh, strummergirl, thanks....this IS so good and so true, and like you, will help with the kids...as we certainly didn't have it modeled did we!! ((sg)) jill
TN and Jill...I will have to ask our couples T this Thursday if there is a diagram for the "protest, despair, and detachment" that he talked about. It turns out I was wrong to say that "all" of that was on a different diagram. I found the other diagram, which is a modified Circle of Security that shows how we develop alternate patterns to stay safe when either part of the circle feels uncomfortable for us (more below). But the protest, despair and detachment are not on there. I think he was making the connection for me in particular...kind of expanding on my pattern of that circle, which is the bottom half (uncomfortable returning to the parent), because I had described feeling "angry" so much of the time in response to my husband's perceived avoidance of me. He just completed a three-week course in infant attachment and I think that might be where that came from.

The modified Circle of Security is on page 5 of the following paper:

The Circle of Security project

The modified Circle of Security diagram shows what happens when either part of the circle is disrupted - when it is uncomfortable for us to leave our secure base (due to overprotective parenting, for example) or return to our safe haven (due to neglectful parenting, for example). It shows how we develop alternate patterns to stay safe...but the same pattern also prevents us from getting what we need, even when the situation changes and we could get what we need...it's like we don't even see the new opportunity, because the pattern to protect ourselves is so ingrained in us.

The paper also explains disorganized attachment, but I'm pretty sure that was too complex to show on the diagram.

I promise to get back to you on what he said about protest/despair/detachment!

SG
strummergirl, i am out of ink, but am going to print this all out and work on some self cure supported my YOU, my friend. thanks, this makes sense. my home was the 'home of mis-cues'...what a bunch of loons. talked to my mom the other day and ... she really IS crazy!! i just thought it was normal!!

mis-cue junction, that was the home for alot of us. funny how we all get along so well. my husband just cracks up at a, how i couldn't leave y'all, and b, how ya'll are so warm and fuzzy.

i dunno, y'all seem like the most sincere, nice, normal people I have ever seen on the web!!


thanks for the time and energy posting all this stuff, i can't wait to really process it!!! MAKES SENSE!!! jill
SG Quote: ""Folks, I swear, this is EXACTLY what I've been doing with my husband!! It wasn't anger at all, that's why I couldn't figure it out. And I was definitely not bothering to "protest", because on some level I was sure it wouldn't be met, and then moving right into despair and detachment...even to the point of pining for an attachment from a quarter of a century ago. And although I can't really "remember" ever developing this pattern with my parents, it is the ONLY way I EVER remember relating to them at all. I thought it was "just the way I was." What good news that maybe I was never really supposed to be that way at all. Explains a lot!!!

Now that my husband and I are starting to do something different, things are changing...and we just started, I know we have a long way to go yet...but just not to have that haze of inexplicable agitation, the raging need for intimacy and an equally raging need to run away screaming...I just can't express enough what a relief it is to have it so drastically reduced with something so simple. And yet it feels exactly right, like exactly what I've been trying to ask for, I just didn't have any idea how. And now the "rest" of the stuff we have to work on, which is a lot, looks so much more possible now that all my energy isn't getting drained away with unexpressed "protesting", despair, and detachment"



strummergirl, i am just a rookie with this attachment. altho t3 told me i had it, i didn't recognize it until she booted me out. now i can see that as a blessing as it clearly showed what you are saying in this quote. the despair and detachment i felt so strongly growing up, and this unrelenting need to still find that attachment with THEM all through my adult life. it was a mystery, yet i knew it was there. me, pleasing them, trying SO hard trying to come back to loving arms that delighted in what i 'brought home from school' today, even bringing them grandkids. they took, they had no problem with that, but, i don't know there was something missing in the delighted with ME aspect. they love the kids, but delighted with ME was missing from the earliest days up to the present.

like i say, i am a rookie, but this is so flipping helpful!

i am going to try that greeting each other when you come and go with a kiss or hug or something with my husband. not that we have problems, but sometimes i do shun his gooodbye kiss away, like i am tooo busy for it. all a part of this circle stuff. and who knows, if i can get him more aware of MY attachemnt malfunctions, perhaps these attachments can be achieved in a healthy way through him and lessen my dependence (from the gut dependence) on my future t and turn that into more of a handrail dependence with my husband being my bread and butter.

anyway, any thing else you find, please share, i printed it out and plan on reading it through with my husband soon.

i maintain, i learn SO MUCH on this site, i appreciate your sharing, sg. xxoo, and hug,too, jill
I'm bumping this thread because I just saw the movie "Tangled". Whoever wrote the script for the woman who stole Rapunzel from her parents really did their homework. She posed as Rapunzel's "mother" and was just horrid to her...in terms of the Circle of Security, I had the "other" kind of mother, the kind where I was not encouraged to return...I did not have the "safe haven"...producing the avoidant type of child...this "mother" in the movie was the other kind...the kind who keeps the child enmeshed and dependent in order to get her own needs met...the kind who does not allow the child to go out exploring, does not serve as the child's "secure base"...this character was so awful, it almost made me grateful that my mother was "just" disconnected...she kept making "jokes" to Rapunzel that were really putdowns...and she kept singing this song about "Mother knows best" that just made me shudder...has anyone else seen the movie?

And yes, I know I must be thinking too much about therapy when I'm analyzing the characters in Disney movies Roll Eyes

SG
Hi JD Smiler

I'm so sorry you lost your response...TWICE, no less...I just HATE it when that happens...here, I'll growl with you...grrrrrrrr. Here's a mad face, too. Mad

I'm really glad, though, to hear that the Circle of Security diagram and the description of our experience of it was helpful to you! Wink

One thing I should say, though...and I really hope this doesn't dampen your enthusiasm, because that isn't my intention at all...but I did just recently end the therapy with the couples T who showed us this. Frowner One of the main reasons I ended it is because it felt like these concepts didn't go "far enough" in helping us. Kind of like our marriage got first aid, when what it really needed, in the long run, was surgery. And when I think about the fact that this model was made for use in correcting attachment patterns in actual parent-child interactions, and is not used directly in application for treating adult relationships...it makes some sense now.

But that is not to say this diagram isn't useful or helpful to a degree...it IS, and WAS very useful in understanding why and how we were turning away from each other...using it gave us a great beginning on the therapy...apparently we started with such a BANG that our couples T seemed to change his view of our marriage, saying we were almost "done" and started trying to end sessions early...and that really did not sit well with me at all. We tried to repair, and we gave it another chance...but despite some reassurances to the contrary, it really felt to me like he stopped giving us therapy at the point he started ending sessions early. He would start every session with "so how do you want to use our time today?" and kept repeating the admonition to make sure and "come prepared"...when, if anything, I come OVERprepared. And a lot of what I was bringing up wasn't being "heard" by our couples T OR my husband. So it just felt to me like it wasn't working, for whatever reason. And whether I'm imagining it or not, I did not want to spend any more energy trying to repair the therapeutic relationship, when what I really want to focus on is repairing my marriage. I want the therapeutic relationship to be fairly good from the beginning...much like the one with my individual T. So I decided to end it.

At any rate, I would love to hear what your T says about it if you'd like to share. I'd also love to hear what success you have with these ideas in your own therapy (well, truthfully, with any other ideas for that matter). Big Grin

One other thing I wanted to tell you is, I was reading an online magazine today and thought of you because there's an article in there about equine therapy!! Here's a link to the magazine. The article is on page 21.

Coulee Region Women

Hugs,
SG

p.s. I love your new candle avatar Smiler

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