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Hi all. I'm sorry that I haven't really been posting here. I've kind of been in another place. I'm feeling really dark again inside. I don't know what is wrong with me. I am functioning, going to work - two jobs, smiling and being friendly to all, acting like the world is such a great place to be, and yet inside I just want to die. I want to fade out and not bother with anyone. Give me my weed and some music and I'm floating away. My disgust and hatred for myself has started me to picking at my body again. I have marks all over my stomach and arms from picking and scratching until I bleed. I don't know what's wrong with me. Can it still be from my childhood abuse? I don't see it being that. I mean I know it has some bearing on this but come on, how long does this go on? I am so sick of trying to tell my T and myself that I'm ok. I just can't keep feeling this darkness anymore. My life has alot of good in it and I should be happy. I just can't seem to shake the bad in me - the feelings of yuck. What are you supposed to do? I continually get up and go to work, make my day ok, come home and go to bed. Next day same thing. My day feels like it's fake from beginning to end. I'm just moving along like I'm supposed to do. No real meaning to anything.

I know it probably sounds like I'm drowning in self pity but I'm really not. I just can't seem to get rid of this dark side of me. I try and try and yet inside it's always the same. Does anyone understand that? Doing things that are fun are good for the moment and then I'm back inside of myself and lost in the dark. I hate it all. I hate being in Therapy and I hate hearing the same crap about depression and meds and fakeit till you make it. It is all just crap to me anymore. I'm not sure what to do with myself anymore really. I'm sorry for the post but I don't really have anyone else that I can talk to besides my T and I haven't seen her in 3 weeks now. I didn't want to call because I figured I would just hear the same thing again and again. Plus she is probably tired of me saying the same thing too. I don't want to be a pain in the butt and I don't want her to start thinking oh here we go again. I am just beside myself at the moment.
Thanks for listening.

Smiley
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Hi Smiley,

I am really sorry to hear that you are in such a dark place at the moment. It takes a lot of effort to act like everything is ok when inside you are feeling miserable Frowner.

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I am so sick of trying to tell my T and myself that I'm ok. I just can't keep feeling this darkness anymore


Smiley…it’s ok to admit that you aren’t ok and that you are struggling with this…I am really glad you reached out and posted.

It doesn’t sound like self-pity to me…it sounds like you are really hurting and you want someone to understand where you are coming from..

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I just can't seem to get rid of this dark side of me


Maybe its not as simple as to ‘get rid of’ the dark side…..it sounds like perhaps it needs some attention in order to heal and to not feel so dark. I know this is far easier said than done though.

You say you don’t want to call your T as you don’t want to hear the same thing again and again…and I am wondering what it is you are being told about depression and meds as each person is different and maybe she is putting you into a category where you don’t belong. I don't know your T but I would think she would be glad of you reaching out for help rather than thinking 'oh here we go again'. Is the darkness an area you have shared with her?

I really wish I could be of some help. Am thinking of you and sending you hugs.

Butterfly
Thanks Butterfly. I have shared the darkness with my T. Basically I keep being told that it is the meds. I either need a new one, need to up them or whatever. I have been taking meds for so long now that you would think they could get it right. I'm sick of it. She said she thinks the depression is alot to do with chemical. I think it's crap. I'm sure she would be fine with me calling - I just feel so dumb about it. The darkness is the part of me that wants to die and just be done with everything. It just seems to stay with me all the time. Maybe that's where I'm really supposed to be - I don't know. Thanks for answwering me.

Smiley
Unfortunately I don’t know much about meds…it sucks…. I’m sorry.

I know I used to feel dumb calling my T too but for me it was just the initial fear of actually doing it…once I used to press dial my heart would race and I knew there was no turning back. Do you think you will feel better for ringing….if so I would say its definitely worth it to help you through.

I have had feelings of darkness before and know how it can take over everything...I hate to think of you struggling alone.

((((Smiley))))

Butterfly
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My disgust and hatred for myself has started me to picking at my body again. I have marks all over my stomach and arms from picking and scratching until I bleed. I don't know what's wrong with me. Can it still be from my childhood abuse? I don't see it being that. I mean I know it has some bearing on this but come on, how long does this go on? I am so sick of trying to tell my T and myself that I'm ok.


Hi Smiley,
First I want to tell you that I struggled with that kind of darkness and self-hatred for decades (sorry I know that’s scary!) so I want you to know that this isn’t about you just feeling sorry for yourself, or refusing to change or any of the other horrible stuff you’re telling yourself. The truth is that childhood abuse is incredibly damaging with really far-reaching consequences and it can be very long and difficult to heal from it.

One of the biggest problems with childhood abuse is that we had no way to process what was happening to us or any way to handle the very deep, scary feelings that came along with it. If the abuser was someone who was supposed to be our caregiver,we were in an even worse bind, becaues the very person we should have been able to move towards to handle our feelings and how overwhelmed we were, was the very source of what we were dealing with. This left us nowhere to go and no choice but to bury some really significant feelings. Feelings which often led to us forming very deep beliefs about ourselves which from a child’s viewpoint and our experience make TOTAL sense, but are nonetheless not true. And a big part of that is a very deep, far reaching belief in our own worthlessness or even a belief in our intrinsic “wrongness.”

One of the very deep fears I had to work through in therapy was the belief that if someone could really know me they would leave. After all, the last time someone knew me on that level, they left. After treating me really badly and telling me I deserved it and no one would love me, including my mother, if they knew what I had done.
There seems to be only one way to heal from this: we must dig up those buried emotions, express them and look at the beliefs they created in order to mourn our losses and heal from them. This is not solved by the right mediciations or by thinking positive thoughts! If that were enough, we could just read the right book, obtain a correct intellectual understanding and toddle off. But the truth is that so much of this is encoded in our right brain and in emotional experiences we had BEFORE our frontal cortex even came online, so the only way to heal it is to let the feelings out in the presence of an understanding other. We need to experience acceptance and understanding, that someone cares enough, that we matter enough to listen to. One really important thing I learned from my T was that our sense of worth ALWAYS comes from outside ourselves. But when we’re children we can take it in on such a deep level and at a time that our understanding of our worth becomes an integral part of ourselves. For those of us who have the unenviable task of learning our own worth later in life, it is never quite as robust or easily believed, but we can achieve it. I can honestly say now that while I have a much more realistic picture of who I am, including my many faults (which were too threatening before to acknowledge), that picture also includes my many strengths. I like who I am, and know that despite my very ordinary life and all too clear humaness, I am a worthwhile person.

The problem is though, that this task takes a long time and a lot of repititions. Our experience as children were small things that happened over and over and over again and laid down strong tracks in our brain. We have to build up tracks that are strong enough to overide those and the only way to do that is to keep returning again and again and pushing back on our wrong beliefs.

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I continually get up and go to work, make my day ok, come home and go to bed. Next day same thing. My day feels like it's fake from beginning to end. I'm just moving along like I'm supposed to do. No real meaning to anything.


I remember the feeling of “fakeness” you’re talking about. I had a lot of very deep strong feelings buried very deeply which meant I couldn’t go near my feelings because they were too dangerous. So instead of reacting to my life and using my emotions to inform me about it, I decided how I was “supposed” to feel and then worked very hard to feel that way. But that involves a lot of not being honest with even ourselves and to not feeling authentic. As I have learned to have my feelings, that sense of really being who I am has grown as has my feeling of being “real.”

And I think the self-injury is a strong sign of buried emotions that need to be processed. Human beings have feelings, lots of them. And no matter how hard we try to push them away or push them down, they have to come out. I believe that you hurting yourself is an attempt to acknowlege the “ugliness” you are carrying inside. The root of the problem however is that you believe the ugliness is yours when actually it’s the ugliness of what was done to you. Only in looking directly at it can you see the ugliness for what it is: not yours.

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My life has alot of good in it and I should be happy. I just can't seem to shake the bad in me - the feelings of yuck. What are you supposed to do?


I actually said this to my T, that what’s wrong with me that I have SO much to be thankful for, what was my problem that I couldn’t just let it go? I want to leave you with the same answer he gave me. All the food in the world isn’t going to help if you’re thirsty. Just because your needs might be getting met now doesn’t remove the buried pain of not having them met before. Those unmet needs are stopping you from feeling what you’re getting now. Not some shortcoming on your part. There is a way out Smiley, but it’s long, slow and can be painful. I’m sorry you have to walk this way, but I do want you to know that there’s hope and another side to this despair.

AG
(((((Smiley))))))

I am so sorry for the pain and darkness you are in...I wish I could just wave a magic wand and make it go away! (For me too) Please know that you are lovable and that you really make my day every time I see you post. ( I know that might feel hard to beleive, but it's true!) You have a lot of insight and depth under that quiet exterior of yous...it's not fair that what was done to you is causing all of this darkness and pain, but like AG said...it is not you that is causing this, but what was done to you. May not seem true, but these things really do have a lifelong lasting effect on us. Oh, how I relate to your sense of "shouldn't I be grateful for what I have, I have it pretty good now, and why should I still be so messed up after so long over this..."I could have written your words myself. Try to know that T's are spending tons of time trying to get all of us to let go of that notion...there must be a reason for that. I don't understand it myself...but there is certainly a reason why they spend so much time trying to get us to stop seeing it this way..sometimes, that thought can help me a little bit when I can no longer believe anything is worthwhile, either.

I hope that you will allow yourself to take some care and support from this place for as much and as long as you need to. You simply need to be accepted and understood for who and where you are right now. Who you are? Loveing good person quietly trying to makes sense of the pain you are in...where you are? In a hole that someone else pushed you into a long time ago, and needing and SO deserving some help and guidance how to climb out. I really hope you have a T who understands abuse and how it afffects.. and that you see enough of this T to help along. In my experience far apart sessions have been very detrimental to my progress, in fact it might have been better not to have therapy at all than only once a month. Of course that is just me, but I thought I remembered you saying you do not get in to see your T much? If that's true, I hope you will soon find a way- any way- to ask for frequent sessions. That seems very important from my perspective.
Many comforting hugs, and I wish I could be there with you and just give you a cup of hot tea and a conversation about it all. Let us know how you are doing today? If you have energy or time, no pressures.

Love,

BB

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