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I hope everyone has had a wonderful start to the New Year! I have been in hiding, so to speak, hashing out some things on my own, or at least trying to. So, here goes...

Currently, there is a disagreement over discussing diagnosis in person or by phone...I have emphasized that I would like to do it by phone, he has emphasized that he feels it needful to do it in person. He did say that he would confer with some colleagues as to what their thoughts would be.

He said they were of the opinion that it needed to be done in person as well. That did not go over well with me. I told him that he probably knew what they were going to say before he even asked them. I told him I thought their opinion sucked and that I thought him agreeing with it sucked, too. I asked him to please let me know why he thought in person was best before I came to my next session. He stated he was 'holding firm' and would not discuss it via text. I then said, 'By phone then.' He said he wasn't going to call. We would discuss it in session on Wednesday. He then stated that texting was just for 'touching base.'

Well, I told him I wouldn't be touching base with him anymore, that I didn't need to...that I was sure he was happy about that. I said to him that I hoped that whatever he was trying to accomplish, that he had accomplished it because I wasn't coming back to therapy. I told him he makes all the decisions and I just have to believe that he has my best interest at heart. I then told him he was deleted from my life and that I did not want to talk to him anymore.

I also stated that he knew I did not want to discuss this in person and that I felt he was being cruel by making me do so. I also told him he was the most stubborn man I have ever met.

I just completely lost all decorum. Well, this morning the reality of all that I said hit me. I thought to myself, "How could I be so mean to him?" I did truly apologize but told him I wouldn't be coming in because I could not face him.

He said that he still wanted to see me. I just told him I couldn't face him after saying all that I said to him.

I have been struggling greatly with negative transference. I think he hates me. I hate him, think he is against me. That he enjoys saying no to me. That he doesn't have my best interest at heart. That he enjoys purposefully challenging me. In my head I know this all stems from my childhood. I hate it. I literally hate it.

I am having trouble separating him from others in my past. I k n o w he is not them...but internally, my reality is different.

I don't know if or when I will go back. He needs a better client. I told him that it was truly okay if he did replace me with someone else. Someone that actually enjoyed coming to see him. Someone that was easier to deal with. Etc. etc. etc.

So, that's where I am at. If anyone knows of any articles on negative transference, I would truly appreciate the link or links to them.

Now, on to some damn attachment issues...I find this truly bizarre...you go to see someone for help because you know you are in dire need of it and then what do you do? You try your hardest to push your Therapist away...now tell me, honestly, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? What person in their right mind would pay to see a Therapist weekly just to push them away? It defies reason. It defies logic.

You either want help or you don't. If I really wanted help, I wouldn't be pushing him away. But yet, I do. I can talk to myself all day about how irrational it is...that it doesn't make any sense. Does my behavior change? No.

I think I am just considering leaning toward hyposis to get through what I have to get through. At least that way, not so much will rely on the 'therapeutic relationship.'

Thank you for 'listening' to my rant and thank you for any thoughts, links, replies, or even something to jar me out of this rut.

Best Wishes,
T.
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(((TAS)))

I've struggled with the relationship with my T the entire time I've been in therapy which has now been 4 years and 8 months. I could have written a post like this more times than I can count. All I can tell you is what my T has told me over and over again. It is okay to have conflicting feelings about therapy and your therapist. You can want help and not want it at the same time. You can push him away and keep going back to therapy. I've said horrible things to my T and I once asked him how he kept treating me with the same respect, care, and interest in how I was feeling and what I was struggling with. He told me that he remembered to listen to all the different parts of me: the one who was telling him I hated him and he was cruel and took pleasure in making me miserable; the part of me that wanted help and kept coming to therapy every session and tried to communicate; the part of me that occasionally was overcome with guilt and shame and apologized profusely for things I had said and would probably say again (which is my definition of irrational apologizing and then doing the same thing again).

I know how hard it is to go back and talk to T after feeling and expressing so much anger and fear. I also think that the issue of talking in person or by phone about diagnosis is complicated and only you can decide if it is something that you can't work through. I wish you peace in whatever you decide to do.
(((TAS))))

I had loads of negative transference and was totally convinced my T was doing things to hurt me and was cruel. It took a long time to undo and lots of acts of kindness on his part for me to really get to know him and know that he doesn't want to hurt me.

Why not put the diagnosis thing on the back burner? I can see why he wants to discuss it in person - because he wants to be able to explain things fully to you, he wants to be there for support, he wants to be able to gauge your reaction, etc. I think it's a bad idea to do it over the phone.

HOWEVER, I totally get that you want to do it over the phone and can't do it in person. I think you need to put it aside for now.

Thank you for your replies Liese and Incognito...I know this will work itself out eventually...I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on negative transference, etc.

This issue has really caused some angst...due to his expertise and me having to trust...which is a huge issue for me.

I feel that I have certainly crossed some lines by railing against him as I did...and truly don't believe that I can face him...this is the worst I have ever been toward him and there have been bad times before just not on this level...I know he is asking me to trust him on this but I don't feel as if I have the ability to do that...it places me in a very vulnerable place. I think that is what scares me the most.

I just know I can't keep doing this...push pull. push pull. It doesn't make sense and I wish I could make sense of it logically. I have read about attachment issues...still to my mind, it doesn't make sense.

I believe that someone else had commented on my post, I think it was Summer. I am sorry it took me a while to reply. I am glad you wrote about your experience with negative transference. The journey is easier when you know you are not alone...I hope things get better for you.

To Better Days,
T.
hi TAS. i've googled negative transference in the past and have never had much luck. i'm at work now so can't spend any time with this right now, but i did another google search this morning and there was surprisingly more worthwhile looking hits that there has been in the past. i thought this one looked interesting and have printed it out to take it home and read later. i'm not seeing T currently, but a quick synapsis is that i've always liked him, but have always struggled with going to therapy, getting anxious, troubles opening up, trouble trusting T, etc. so maybe not to the degree that you do, but i definitely sturggle with this. maybe this link will help you, maybe not. it looked interesting to me, though. good luck, TAS.
http://www.enotes.com/negative...egative-transference

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