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Hi everybody, I just found this place last night. I've been looking everywhere for a place like this! This is my (very long) first post.

I knew my therapist for almost a few years, first in the hospital, then in OP since last July. I saw a few therapists before her but never felt a true connection. With her, I was able to be completely honest and the relationship helped a lot in keeping me out of the hospital. With other therapists, I was in and out for a couple years. With her help, I was able to stay out the entire time I saw her OP and my weight was stable (eating disorder). The relationship has meant a lot to me. I trusted her with a lot of things and brought up issues with her that I never told any one else. I was able to cry in front of her and I could tell she cared.

A few months ago, she told me was moving away. At first, I was in shock, but it didn't take long for me to realize the incredible loss I'd be facing and the crying began. It was and is still difficult for me to deal with it all. She was my support and I depended on her for her insight. I always looked forward to our sessions because if I had something good to tell her, she'd be just as excited as me.

I had my last session with her about 6 weeks ago. There were a lot of tears and I didn't want to be there to say goodbye. I wrote her a long handwritten letter telling her how much she's meant to me, and I also gave her a mini book I made of quotes and specific things she's done to help. I think she was sad, too, but she deliberately stayed in her clinical role. It's one thing I hate about the therapist-client relationship - therapists really can't say how they're feeling. The time went by so fast and before I knew it, it was time to leave. In our years working together, we never had any type of physical touch, but I wanted a hug. It took some courage because I was afraid she'd say no, but I asked, and she said it'd be ok.

I think it was the best hug I've ever had in my life.

I hate hugs because they usually seem forced and I don't like touching people. But this one was so sincere. She held me tightly and I squeezed her back. I reminded myself to try to remember everything, smelled her perfume, said another "thank you," and then it was over within a few seconds. I could've stood there forever. I don't think I've felt so much through a hug before. As much as I wanted her to say how she was feeling, but couldn't because of her professional role, she said with the hug. I knew that our relationship meant something to her, too.

I miss her and I know I will never see her again. I'm able to give her updates through e-mail every once in a while, but it's not the same as the intimate one-on-one time. I've been seeing a new therapist since she left. She chose her for me since she said they're a lot alike. But my new therapist is not her and she can't be replaced. I've been able to open up with my new one, so I've talked some about missing her, feeling abandoned, etc. but I feel bad at the same time. She's nice and I don't want to make her think I don't like her.

This past week, I sent her the first e-mail update since she left. I wrote about how it’s been difficult since she’s left, that I’m still adjusting to my new T. I also included the journal that I wrote after our last session. Although she’s not my therapist anymore, I wanted her to know how significant the hug and our relationship was to me. At the end, I mentioned that I hope she likes her new job, and that I’m still out of the hospital. The e-mail was quite long and I said, “I hope it’s ok - you know I worry about bothering you.” I didn’t want to bother her with whatever I had to say when I’m sure she’s busy, and I’m not her patient anymore. I was a bit hesitant to send it because maybe I was only supposed to send a quick note. But I hit “Send” anyway.

In the time between when I sent the message and when I got a response, I wondered what she would say back. Part of me was hoping that she would respond to my journal and tell me that, yes, she was sad to be leaving, and that it was hard to say goodbye, too. Logically, I knew that the professional boundary was still there, but because she’s not my therapist anymore, maybe she could show more of her personal side. But then again, because she’s no longer my therapist, she has to show less of her personal side.

The part of me that was hoping for a more personal response was disappointed when I read the e-mail. It was little more than a generic auto-reply, simply stating within a few sentences that it was good to hear from me and she’s glad things are going ok. Although I didn’t expect a message as long or as in detail as mine, I was upset at the lack of. It made me more upset than I ever thought I would be in that situation.

That’s it? She really doesn’t care. I guess she wasn’t sad to be leaving. I was just another patient. I bothered her with my e-mail and wasted her time. Maybe she just doesn’t want to hear from me.

It was hard enough not knowing how she felt when she left, and getting back a few sentences was just as difficult. It does make me feel abandoned. I’m very well aware that boundaries are in place for a reason. They’re there to protect the patient and so the relationship stays therapeutic. But what happens when there is a real human connection and it’s just cut off? Isn’t that more harmful? It only reinforces my lifelong belief that nobody cares about me. It shows me that even though I liked her and felt comfortable telling her anything, guess what? I will never know how she feels. I feel the stupid one for feeling vulnerable and trusting her.

It's all screwing with my head. It’s not fair. Why did she have to leave? Why am I still upset over it? Did she think about how much it would affect everyone else? She was only my therapist - get a grip!! Suck it up. Stop crying. That doesn’t fix anything.

Assuming that she doesn’t care is making me feel guilty. We talked about the subject of caring numerous times. She never explicitly told me that she cared about me; I guess I just knew that she did. I wouldn’t have been able to open up as much as I did if I thought she didn’t care, but things are completely different now. I don’t want to think of her as selfish, but it’s hard not to in this situation. I’m angry that she left and cut off all relationships with the people who trusted her most. If she did care, how could she do that?

I'm so desperate to hear her tell me, "Yes, I care about you and I didn't want to hurt you. I miss you too." Why is it so terrible to say it back? We're supposed to view our therapists as human, yet they can't fully be human. It's not fair for either side.
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Hi Livestrong,

Welcome to the forum ... My heart ached as I read your email .... It seems all of us here long to be cared for and know the pain of abandonment all too well ..... I know how you felt .... I don't know why she couldn't say what you needed to hear .... I can only say that I know how much the longing hurts ... I'm proud of you for all the progress you've made .... and maybe you would consider telling your new T everything you've written here on the forum ... maybe she can help you work through it .....
Hi Livestrong and welcome to the group. It's nice to have you here.

You post really touched me and I truly know how you are feeling just now. I am struggling to survive an abrupt and hurtful termination from my T of 2.5 years. I never really got to say good bye to him as he banished me and refused to talk to me or see me and the last time I saw him there was another T in the room with us so I could not say what I needed to and was in such a state of shock I couldn't really think straight. I miss him terribly and the pain is so unbearable at times I feel like I cannot breathe.

I am also struggling to find another T who I can feel comfortable with and not sit there and cry through the entire session. I am angry at all the other Ts I've seen because they are not MY T and it just reminds me of the awful situation I find myself in. So hard to trust anyone and I feel like I'm such a horrible person and that's why he abandoned me. Who would ever want me for a patient? And I have NO real idea of why I was terminated at all.

I know how much it hurt you to get what seems like a auto reply email but I'm thinking that your T felt that she didn't want to encourage your feeings or have you expect any personal relationship with her now that you are no longer her patient. I know how hard this is and how much it seem so unfair. I hate the boundaries and even though we know it's supposed to protect patient and therapist... just sometimes it seems so inhuman to expect us to develop a close and intimate relationship with someone and then we never see or hear from them again when it's over. This is the part I hate about therapy and I have been hard hit but those same boundaries in that I cannot have any contact with my T... but he can... if he wants to contact me then it's okay but I cannot. It is so frustrating.

I'm sorry I don't have any magic or insightful thoughts to help you feel better. Just know that I understand and I'm sorry you are in such pain. I do think you know that your T cared about you from her actions in your last session. Hold that close to you when those other damaging thoughts start to creep into your mind.

I hope you can work things out with a new T and I think you should be able to talk about this as long as you need to with her. I'm sure she understands how important your old T was to you.

TN
((((LiveStrong))))
my heart goes out to you, you seem very insightful and very strong considering how long you worked with her and how much she WILL mean to you.
Yes, she cared.
She may be being careful that she does not get up your hopes ....
that will be hard for her too, to have your best interests at heart whilst she still cares for you and wonders how you are. You could just send an email saying you wish she had said she missed you or something and see what she says, but she may think she has to be more distant. The person I worked with last week, Jon Kabat Zinn, said that actually what each of us need is to be met, heard, listened to and LOVED unconditionally. And if she was doing that, as indeed it sounds that she was, then she will miss you and carry a bit of you in her heart just like you carry a bit of her always in your heart.
I feel for you. I have just gone through a bumpy ending with a C that I saw for 17 months, and my heart still aches.
It is nice to meet you and this is a good place to be heard and met with this kind of thing.
Welcome!
I had the same thought as Sheychen .... that your old T was actually trying to help you along in the letting-go process because she knows she moved and she can't be there for you anymore .... which is actually a very caring thing to do .... it's like what i said about setting boundaries with my kids and not waffling on things, like when they want candy ... the harder and firmer I am with my boundaries (even though I completely understand where they are coming from) the sooner they accept what I am saying and then move on .....I am saying no for their own benefit, although they might not see it that way .... so even though it doesn't FEEL like you're being cared about, it is actually a very considerate thing to do .... But of course, we are all being mindreaders and you could be direct and just ask her if you desire and hopefully she'll give you a caring and direct response ....
(((((((Livestrong)))))

Welcome to the forum. Your post is so heartfelt and so amazing. I really feel for you! Yes it feels like being abandoned at those times, very much. But, as the others have said, there really is *hidden* very deep care in what she is doing. She knows that she cannot be there with you anymore, and that it is *extremely* painful for you. She knows that if she responds with care, (the care that you really DO need) it will make you need her more- but that she is not able to be there to give it. I am sure this is painful for her, too. So, she must restrain and withhold. This is someway, mysteriously, the deepest kind of love. Self-restraint in love for another..."I will not give you what you need, and what I *want* to be able to give to you, because- it will hurt you more in the long run, and, you will not be able to stand alone ever, then." This very thing, is the love we need, and never got. It hurts- terribly. The love Liese is giving to her children in *not* giving them candy. Yet...it is more than that, Livestrong. You really do, need this love. It is not just candy...it is a need- like nourishment! So my T would would say, and has taught me, though, he cannot give it totally. And you must keep looking until you find somehow, that love that you need and deserve so badly! A life-long search...for some, and others, may find, in their lifetime- or after. And you have certainly gotten some of that, a tantalizing "taste" of the love you badly need, from such a caring T...the search is such a painful one. You seem up to the challenge! As reflected in your beautiful screen name! And, we are here, as companions on such a journey.

Welcome here, you will find many who understand deeply your struggle and pain.

Blackbird
Thank you everyone for your responses. Smiler As I've been reading through various threads, I know you all can understand. It's such a complicated relationship that nobody outside of therapy understands. It's personal, but not, since it's one sided. And professional, but not like other professional relationships. Grrr.

A couple of you have suggested that I just ask if she cares or not. She's urged me to directly ask/say things to her before, but I'm afraid to. If she responds with, "I'm not allowed to answer that, etc." then I'll automatically think that she doesn't care.

I had an art therapy session today and cried about it, and that therapist let me know that it's perfectly ok and normal to feel like this. It just sucks! I'm going to talk about it tomorrow as well with my new therapist.
Hi- I am Mayo,

I will add- yes of course she cares. this abandonment crap gets most of us.
I am at the point where I am sick of it for myself. I just wish I could see things clearly and trust what t says. Just trust it- go with what was- in your relationship, they can't fake that stuff for long. We are too smart.

Welcome!

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