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I cancelled my appointment yesterday but left a VM with him asking for an appointment on Saturday...he has not replied.

He stated a few months back if I cancelled he would not schedule an extra appointment. I would have to wait until my regularly scheduled appointment.

The last couple of sessions have been rocky and difficult. I asked him to be understanding and please reconsider not allowing me to schedule another appointment later in the week.

I told him that I was really trying, I just got scared and didn't even think about what he had said as far as not being able to schedule another appointment.

I feel he doesn't understand. I wish he did. I now feel as if I am being punished for making the decision I did.

I am sure the waters are muddy and I may not be seeing clearly, but that is what it feels like.

I am trying but this is so hard. Fear grips me every time I think of opening up.

Thanks for listening.

SmilerT.
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(((TAS))) if he were to reschedule your appointment after telling you that he would not, that would be really confusing, wouldn't it? at least i think it would be. i don't think that would be a good dynamic.

i don't know, but to me there seems to be alot of subconsious stuff going on, being played out, and tested. it seems like the going is getting tough, and still there is a need to control what is going on, to any extent. in fact, it seems like controlling things, cognitively perhaps or just in general, is an issue here.

i think your T DOES understand. fear does have it's grip on all of us, but it's our choice if we decide to let it consume us or we overcome it.

keep going (((TAS))). i hope you do. i think your T is good and capable and i think, slowly, he is getting through to you. in another post you said "get out of my head" or something similar. i have that, too, where he is in every fricking thought i have! GET OUT! i get that. but i also think i'm in a transitional stage where I'm really thinking T is my anchor. T is my comfort. T is my stabilition. i am slowly realizing this, and i am slowly accepting this and slowly okay with this. he means alot to me. i can tell him things that i can tell no other, and feel totally accepted. i'm afraid that i am entering the stage of therapy where i am totally accepting of his help (VULNERABLE!), and i kind of feel a melting of old thought patterns.

is this kind of where you're headed? or are you headed somewhere totally different?
CDSmiler Thank you for your reply.

For myself, I don't think it would be confusing, him allowing an appointment. I honestly would see it as him being understanding. Him not being willing to bend, I don't see that as him being understanding at all.

I am scared to death of him meaning anything to me. Also, I don't want to need him. I am confused as to how I should relate to him. I don't know whether to go towards him or move away from him. I am petrified to have him see me and I think this is what is so difficult right now.

I just don't know how to see him. It is really throwing me and I am working like hell not to let the undercurrent of 'I HATE YOU' take over. I will be honest, when he used the word 'comply' I have become so confused in how to relate to him. I know it has been a month, but I don't know how to see him/act towards him/speak to him.

I am being worn down, but it's almost as if I just want to give up. I want him to be able to understand but I honestly think he doesn't. I don't know that he is truly capable of understanding why I am the way I am. I am feeling despair.

Why can't I see what I am doing? Why can't I see what he so clearly sees?

I will go to the next appointment. I am getting close to saying a final good-bye.

I hang in because so much is on the line. I really believe I am getting close to not caring anymore.

Thank you for your encouragement CD Smiler All the best.

T.
Ah TAS, I had SO hoped I was going to be wrong, but when I read your post I didn't go, I literally thought to myself, she'll be back in two days angry at him for not giving her an appointment.

TAS, what part of "He stated a few months back if I cancelled he would not schedule an extra appointment. I would have to wait until my regularly scheduled appointment." is confusing to you?

Your therapist has a clearly stated policy (one which you get on some level or you would not have written it) and he stuck to it. I want to very gently point out that you unconsciously, but quite deliberately, set up a situation so that your T looks cruel and withholding to you. You are not being punished, you are experiencing the consequences of your own choice. You are responsible for canceling the appt. There is nothing wrong with canceling the appt if you feel you need to, but it is NOT your Ts responsibility to protect you from your own freely made choice.

I think it might help you to think about why being denied something on Saturday that you turned down on Tuesday feels so cruel?

I think you are engaged in an unconscious power struggle with your T. He has to prove to you that he cares enough to change the rules for you; but he cares enough to not change them.

TAS I suspect that you are very strongly, and unconsciously, defending yourself against loss. You are trying to get your therapist to give what you demand because you feel so strongly you need it. While it might be within his power to give you a session on Saturday, it is NOT in his power to provide you with everything you did not get as a child. You don't want to run into his boundaries because they are painful to experience, because they bring us face to face with our loss. He holds the line and hurts you now, to save you from a greater pain later.

You want him to understand how you feel? I think he understands it deeply, which is why he is behaving this way and insisting upon treating you as an adult. I mean, wouldn't his life be a hell of a lot easier if he just gave into your demands? He is holding firm because he cares and understands, not because he doesn't. It's a painful and difficult lesson but our pain does not trump someone else's boundaries, our feeling desperate does not entitle us to get the response we wish.

TAS, there's only one way through this. Go. Go to your scheduled appointment. Stop second guessing your feelings or judging whether they're ok to have (favorite pastime of mine!). They are what they are and your T won't take them personally. Stop filtering and just tell him how you feel. You keep expressing how much you want to understand, and I know that's sincere, but you are ignoring and not using your best resource, your T. I am not minimizing how scary and painful that is to do, but it is a way to be moving through the pain instead of being stuck in it.

AG
AG: Thank you for replying Smiler I hope everything is going well for you Smiler


"I want to very gently point out that you unconsciously, but quite deliberately, set up a situation so that your T looks cruel and withholding to you."

How can one do the above and not know they are doing it? Wouldn't someone know when they are doing this? I don't understand how I can do certain things without being aware I am doing them.

"While it might be within his power to give you a session on Saturday, it is NOT in his power to provide you with everything you did not get as a child."

Well, may I ask (to the Universe) : "Where in the hell am I supposed to get everything I didn't have as a child?" Am I never going to have it, ever? How am I supposed to come to terms with this? I mean, damn, does it ever end? I feel like this is some kind of cruel joke, the way my life is playing out.

"You want him to understand how you feel? I think he understands it deeply, which is why he is behaving this way and insisting upon treating you as an adult. I mean, wouldn't his life be a hell of a lot easier if he just gave into your demands? He is holding firm because he cares and understands, not because he doesn't. It's a painful and difficult lesson but our pain does not trump someone else's boundaries, our feeling desperate does not entitle us to get the response we wish."

I am sure his life would be a lot easier. Mine would be too Smiler if only he would give in. I get that I cancelled. I got scared. I didn't even think about what he had said about cancelling the appointment. I just was scared. But, he won't give any allowance for that. It doesn't matter WHY I cancelled, he is sticking to what he said.

I want him to see me as a person and not see me through these rules or boundaries he has set up. I just want him to be flexible when I do get overwhelmed. I think his rules are more important to him than I am. I really, truly feel that.

AG: THANK YOU for replying. I need to print this out and reread it when I can't 'see' and everything becomes confusing.

If anything in my reply seems edgy, please know it is NOT directed towards you. I am frustrated, towards myself, towards the process and especially when it comes to having to figure out what I need to do about not getting what I needed as a child - and how to get it.

Smiler I have been reading your blog Smiler
T.
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How can one do the above and not know they are doing it? Wouldn't someone know when they are doing this? I don't understand how I can do certain things without being aware I am doing them.


its called the unconscious mind TAS. part of some therapies is making the dynamics that go on outside your awareness more conscious so you can make more adaptive choices without your defensive aspects running the show.

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Well, may I ask (to the Universe) : "Where in the hell am I supposed to get everything I didn't have as a child?" Am I never going to have it, ever? How am I supposed to come to terms with this? I mean, damn, does it ever end? I feel like this is some kind of cruel joke, the way my life is playing out.


Tas, you can't have everything you never had as a child for the simple reason alone that that time has passed and you are no longer a little girl. Even if you could have it, it wouldn't sink in the way it does when you're a child because there are years of experience logged in your brain. There are some things you can have and other things that must be mourned. I am in the middle of doing this and it is by far the most difficult thing I've ever encountered. It is SO HARD to come to terms with what we've lost when those losses are just mindblowingly enormous and almost incomprehensible. But as you grieve and let go of all that loss and all those feelings, you have room to take in the positive of what is available to you in the present.

I actually suspect that in your T's mind his predictable consistency is absolutely vital to your healing and that's why he is not being flexible. He can see how badly you've been hurt by others who weren't predictable, who did run over boundaries. He is determined, it seems, to provide you with a different experience no matter how much of a fuss you make, how angry you get, hurling insults and threats to quit. To me that is someone who is extremely safe and has your wellbeing as their top priority. But the challenge is encountering something different but knowing deep down is what one needs, leads to very difficult feelings emerging.

Keep hanging in there and going back Tas. It does work in the end

xx
I actually think that in refusing to reschedule, your T is TRYING to give you something that you didn't have as a child. He is trying to give you firm, reasonable limits. Ever seen a good parent enforce rules with their child? The kid thinks the parent is being totally unreasonable and makes a huge fuss and gets angry.

Parent: No, you cannot have dessert because you didn't eat your dinner.
Kid: But mooooooooooooom! I don't liiiiiike broccoli!
Parent: I know, but you still have to eat it if you want dessert.
Kid: But moooooooooom, you don't understand!! I am hungry and I WANT ICE CREAM!
Parent: Sorry, but no.
Kid: YOU ARE SO MEAN!! THIS IS SO UNFAIR!

The kid thinks the parent is being awful, but the parent is doing something good for the kid by setting a limit. It would be MUCH easier for the parent just to let the kid have dessert and not eat dinner, but the parent knows that not only would that be unhealthy for the kid, but without setting limits and letting the kid get angry and rail against them, the kid won't develop self discipline, tolerance for frustration, and reasonable expectations about life.

I agree with everything the others have said, too. It's hard to realize you could be doing something without your awareness, and it's much much worse to realize what you've lost in childhood, but those kinds of realizations are really the bread and butter of therapy. The sooner you face them, the sooner you can move on...
I was thinking about this too today and was going to write something along the lines that a consequence of breaking a defined rule is not a punishment - it is a consequence. I too thought up examples of parenting etc, but everyone above explained it better than I could.

Tas - I think I have a problem with the opposite. I was brought up so strictly, with such strict rules and extreme and swift punishment if I did something wrong - plus I was terminated by exT so am very scared of breaking rules. So now with my T - I am frozen with fear about doing anything wrong and I always remind her what the "rules" are and yet she is so giving. I have tied myself in knots and the stress made me sick when I think I have broken a rule or that my T isn't enforcing a rule or boundary - only for my T to be super consistent but also reasonable and flexible. I am struggling a lot with it and today it occurred to me that I am probably struggling as much as you are - but the opposite problem. If that makes sense.

It isn't pleasant for either of us.
somedays
SD, gosh, that hit a nerve with me. Yes, I find it incredibly hard to break rules for the reasons you describe (you describe an almost identical childhood situation). I don't push at boundaries and I feel very anxious about them a lot of the time. In fact I make myself responsible for other people's boundaries - I self-limit meaning that I often deny myself support from others that might be beneficial because I become very concerned that I have crossed lines or broken unspoken rules. It has taken me a long time to get to a point where I feel comfortable asking for what I want and not be so scared of the answer "no".
Tas,

I can understand, but my Ts have firm rules, but its for my and their safety.. Are they mean? No! I tell you though when I really need something (need not a temper tantrum). They are there. If I canceled and it wasn't for good reason I wouldn't get another appointment. Sometimes even if I was sick, it didn't mean Id get in. They have other clients. It is not fair for you to expect him to give up another appointment that you may cancel at the last minute.
This may be harsh but start showing up for your appointments, stop begging him for something he simply does not do for his other clients.
Green Eyes Smiler Thank you. You are right, this is very difficult and I am sorry you have to be going through what you are going through.

It seems unfair that we suffered what we did as children and now, as adults, we somehow have to undo it all. Wade back through it to get the residue off of us, out of us, away from our heart and soul.

I am getting to the point where I am embarrassed...I keep repeating the same thing...push him away, give anything he has ever given me back, cancel appt., ask for another appt.,...really silly to be acting in a way which my mind does not understand...

Anyway, I do need to keep going back...but I can't continue what I have been doing and I truly don't know how to STOP doing what I am doing...Why can't we just tell ourselves to stop...and then we just stop?

Maybe he was right when he said maybe I wasn't ready to face what needs facing. It's not an excuse, but if I was, would I continually be acting in the manner which I have been?

Smiler Hope your days get brighter

All the best,
T.
BLT: The firmness doesn't feel good...it feels as if he doesn't care. He says he is doing it in my best interest.

I don't think I can look squarely at what I have lost in childhood. I really believe it will do me in. I just need to look as much as I can and then deal with it, even if it is an inch at a time...

Thank you for your reply Smiler I need to just keep showing up. Everything was calm for a little while with therapy and now, not so much.

All the best Smiler
T.
Some Days: I wish I was like you in the area of boundaries...I wish I was more afraid...it would be a nonissue for the boundaries he has...but I am sorry you struggle with it Smiler I know, on either side, it is difficult. It's interesting how our childhood experiences shape us, yes?

A: You think at some point I would get it. I just keep doing the same thing over and over, hoping I will get a different result from him. But, he won't. I was hoping for an appt. if he had an opening. I don't want to take any else's appt. Either way, he hasn't returned my call...even though I was crying...so, he has rules he has to stick to.

Thank you for your reply. I hope you are doing good and it is nice to see you on the boards Smiler

T.
Hi Tas,

Sorry you are going through this, but I also love once again how engaged with the process you are, session or no session.

I was thinking - maybe it's okay just to honour the part of you that needed to have a break and back off, and just rest in this week off? Who knows, maybe this is another reason your T is not keen on replacing appointments, to actually give that part some breathing space and rest. I know my couples T always honours my husband's desire to go slower and have fewer sessions, and it really helps him to stay engaged with the process.
Monte that was wonderful. I love your T. Probably because he reminds me so much of mine! Wink

When I had that breakthrough 2 weeks ago it was related to something like this. My T drew the line and held it and when I had time to reflect I realized he did it out of true care and concern and not to upset me or hurt me. The most loving parents are not afraid to draw boundaries and remain consistent even in the face of our vehement opposition.

TN
(((SD))) I had a really confusing dynamic with ultra-strict parenting on one side of my family, and a parent seemingly ignorant of the entire concept of boundaries on the other. I responding by emulating the strictness with myself and parenting the boundry-less parent. I still tend to do this in relationship, manage boundaries and enforce rules for others, even when they offer healthy flexibility. It is a kind of opposite problem, but equally painful, I imagine.

(((TAS))) It takes a lot of courage to take the feedback you're getting. I really hope you're able to stick with the idea that you are harming yourself (not your T), although as AG says, you are maybe setting up the dynamic of perceiving him as cruel, and commit to treating yourself as you deserve, which is hard when you were poisoned with the idea of deserving pain and mistreatment. There are times I find myself wishing my T to be withholding and cruel, because then my internal world makes more sense. I don't have such a push-pull conflict inside. He won't do it. It would certainly be easier for my T to give up on me and just be who I insist on seeing him as, or your T to give in to what you want, but like a good parent, they're going to do what is best for us, not what is easiest for them.

As a parent of a four-year-old, I can tell you that giving my child reasonable consequences for her choices, or even allowing her to experience natural consequences without intervening in most cases, is not an enjoyable experience. No one wants to see someone they care about deeply in pain, even if they caused the pain themselves, to a certain degree. She is getting to the age where I have to let her make certain decisions, even if I advise against it, warn her in advance about the consequences, and then let her experience them if she makes a choice that is not in her best interest. Otherwise, she won't learn how to live in the world, in relationship with other people.

It's painful, sometimes, to witness how much disappointment she can face because of her decisions. The drive to rescue her from that sort of pain or give her grace against the consequences to alleviate my own discomfort watching her struggle, can be very strong. It takes a very strong love, and a long-term view of her well-being, for me to be that sort of parent, especially with my own triggers (from extreme neglect and dissociated pain/disappointment). By doing so, I help nurture a child into a teen, and eventually an adult, who is capable of being responsible for herself, maintaining her own relationships, getting her own needs met within them, and lives in a world where others should be similarly responsible for themselves. I am sending a message of confidence, that she is increasingly capable of making decisions for herself (not much yet at four-years-old), coping with (or celebrating) consequences while learning from those choices.

My T is very giving, but he won't let me off the hook of taking responsibility for myself. He will do the same with me as I do with Boo. And that is to give wise, experienced, advice, but to respect my responsibility to make decisions for myself. I don't run from sessions with him, but inside of sessions, I often make decisions to avoid certain topics or exercises which are beneficial, or needed, because of my discomfort with vulnerability. He simply tells me that he's concerned we'll run out of time for those things and there will be pain and disappointment on my end, but he allows me to take responsibility for which way to go, whether to risk the vulnerability, or to risk eventual disappointment. I don't like it at all at the time. My family's problems with boundaries made it such that all my decisions were based on what others needed/wanted from me, and not my own needs. So, without those cues, it gets really painful, frustrating, a sort of frozen terror. It sounds like you have some of the same, even if it manifests differently.

I wonder if there is a way you can help yourself through the need to run. For example, could you write on here or in a journal (since I know you can't contact your T with these feelings outside of session) when you feel the need to run away and quit?

Could you make yourself a promise, like:

"Unless I have an emergency (physical illness, scheduling conflict, etc.) that requires me to cancel my session, I will wait at least 24 hours from my first strong desire to cancel (or other distancing actions like returning his gifts) before taking any action. Feelings of terror, projections, and transference, do not constitute an emergency."

Then, maybe you could write here about what is driving the need to cancel? And the pros and cons of the decision. Or in a journal, asking yourself important questions.

1. If I cancel this session, my T will not allow me to see him or communicate with him in any way for an extra week. How will this make me feel toward my T? How will this make me feel toward/about myself?

2. What am I afraid will happen if I keep my commitment and attend this session?

3. Is the thing I fear something I have control over (i.e. whether or not I am ready to discuss a certain topic--it's OK to set a boundary there and say that you only felt safe showing up by making a commitment to yourself that you aren't there trust-wise to be that vulnerable)? Is the thing I fear something I could ease myself into by talking simply about what I'm afraid will happen, so my T can give feedback on it?

4. What do I gain by pushing my T away right now? Safety, in not having to share? Punishing him for not being exactly what I want in the hopes that it will make him change?

5. How likely are those strategies to produce the desired result? Will I actually feel safer if I push him away and then perceive him as abandoning me by not being willing to come rescue me with a later session? Will he feel punished by my action or will I actually be punishing vulnerable parts inside for wanting to connect to him when I'm afraid of his rejection? Has he ever shown any indication that he will rescue me from the consequences of unwise, self-sabotaging decisions?

6. What things could help me wait through the need to run? Could I express this to a person I trust or on the forum or write it out as a story/fantasy, what I would want to happen if I canceled this appointment vs. what I can actually expect to happen? Could I make a list of all the ways my T has shown he cares and values me to combat some of my projections/transference reactions?

7. When I am feeling like my T is going to be cruel and push me too hard or reject me, who in my life (past or present) does that most remind me of? Can I think of ways my T is different than that person?

8. What do I MOST need now (not in the immediate moment, but say for the week as a whole)? How can I accomplish meeting that need? How can I avoid sabotaging that need?

9. What is behind the desire to sabotage that need (for my T)? What belief do I have about needing him that makes it seem loathsome or unsafe? Am I projecting those feelings about my own needs onto my T?

Those are just some examples of things you can think about while trying to make it through the need to run feelings. In the end, it's OK to decide that what you actually need is a break or space or a different T or whatever. But, for your sake, it would be really good to be honest with yourself about what you want/need, and whether the actions you are about to take are in line with meeting those needs, or whether they will have consequences that will seem unbearable days or even moments later.

I wish there was a way you could have a "I feel the need to run" outlet to your T, even without getting feedback to him. Maybe just expressing that feeling would make it feel safer. I am very careful. I express those thoughts/feelings to my T all the time, but I am very clear that there are my fear/pain/shame and not my DECISION as far as what I will do. One time, early on, I sent him a message, something along the lines of, "I feel I have to quit," because I felt like I was sabotaging my family's well-being, because of the destabilizing nature of therapy initially, and the financial consequences. When I came into that session, T had interpreted it as a desire/decision to quit, and not a feeling I was having, and asked about how I might want to make that transition. Since then, I have learned to be very clear about the difference between my feelings/fears and the decisions I am making. I would love if you could use this forum as somewhere to express the FEELINGS of needing to run (which is what your canceling is probably doing) without sabotaging yourself by acting on them spontaneously, not considering the consequences to yourself and your healing/growth.

I'm sorry this was so long. While our issues are not exactly the same, I get really stuck with the push/pull of disorganized attachment and have found that the only way through is to be committed (not to my T, although it makes it easier that there is another person involved, because consideration will keep me from sabotaging) to myself about what I KNOW is best for me, even if I am terrified. Sometimes, that commitment means just showing up, and I can't follow through with the things I need to say/do yet, and I try to learn to be OK with those consequences of needing to hide to feel safe. Sometimes it means taking a huge risk and talking about something that is terrifying and I feel certain he won't understand/accept (just did that today). But practicing with the risks of being there and allowing myself to be seen bit by bit is the way through. Showing up and trying to get better can be really hard, because it sends a message to other parts of me that I value ME, and there are rules against that. That's why my practice is to respond only to perceived needs of others, rather than consciously take action to be responsible for knowing and seeking to have my own needs met.

It's so much safer-feeling to be needless, to be garbage, because no one can hurt me if I'm nobody. But to commit to that course, to not value myself, to not challenge those messages, is to perpetrate the same abuse that poisoned me, is to keep myself locked in terror of relating to others for a life-time. It's a way I know how to navigate the world, so it feels safe from a certain perspective. Only I can choose for myself whether that false security is worth living in chains. Only you can choose for you.

I don't know if what I wrote makes any sense to you...or anyone...I'm in a lot of pain in therapy right now. Crushed under shame. But I am fighting to value me...in the hope that some day, it won't be such hard work. I might never be a self-esteem pro-level athlete due to the wounds of neglect and abuse or even my natural constitution...but someday, maybe I can be in reasonably good health, not gasping for breath or collapsing under stress any time I try to exercise care for my own needs in relationship with others.

to all who struggle out there. Sorry for the length.
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BLT: The firmness doesn't feel good...it feels as if he doesn't care.


Yes, that's normal. It feels that way to children too when their parents set limits with them. Even so, the caring is there. You just can't feel it. It's like when a doctor gives you a shot...it's not going to FEEL good but they are doing it to help you.
Anon.... You are so impressive and amazing.

Do you have ANY idea how much you have grown and changed for the better since you first popped your head in here? I know you are going through a lot of difficulties in therapy right now and the shame gets really bad but you are SO much stronger than you used to be. Your growth is making me feel teary right now! I am happy for you and I'm confident you will get to where you want to be.

Sorry TAS for hijacking your thread but I had to tell Anon what I was feeling after reading her post to you. There is a ton of really good info in there.

TN
Monte: WOW! The e-mail your T. sent you was so clear. It is interesting the statement you made about him meeting you half way. I tell the Therapist sometimes I don't want to talk about something, and all he says is "Okay". He doesn't say, "You need to...," etc. I wish he would, but he doesn't.

"...she does not need her destructive patterns of behavior reinforced by the responses she wants. Oh boy does she want it though. Oh boy is she ever stubborn. And scared."

I can relate so much to this statement. So much. I hate it that I have these destructive patterns and then I get caught in the loop of WHY I have these destructive patterns...then I just shut down.

Thank you for your reply. I am going to print this reply and several others to refer back to when I start to put on my running shoes.

SmilerT.
WOW. The following quote from your post Anon is scarily accurate for my life. Thanks for your wisdom.


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It's so much safer-feeling to be needless, to be garbage, because no one can hurt me if I'm nobody. But to commit to that course, to not value myself, to not challenge those messages, is to perpetrate the same abuse that poisoned me, is to keep myself locked in terror of relating to others for a life-time. It's a way I know how to navigate the world, so it feels safe from a certain perspective. Only I can choose for myself whether that false security is worth living in chains. Only you can choose for you.
Jones: Thank you. I am just going to try and take the rest of the week and not think about all of this.

"...I also love once again how engaged with the process you are, session or no session."

Thank you. I just wish it were easier.

True North: I just wish they didn't have to draw a line at all. I know this probably seems unrealistic, but I wish they didn't. How do you say to your Therapist, "I wish you didn't have to draw lines...", you know it is unrealistic but it is what you want.

Yes, Monte's post was amazing and Anon's too! Smiler I wholeheartedly agree.


BLT: You are right, I definitely don't feel it. I just have to believe he is not doing this to be mean to me. Smiler
Anon: Thank you for your reply. My response may be a little lengthy Smiler

"...It would certainly be easier for my T to give up on me and just be who I insist on seeing him as, or your T to give in to what you want..."

I wish he would, all the time. Give in. At least I would feel he cared. It would be tangible to me. Something I could touch. But, he is going to do what he thinks is best.

"I don't run from sessions with him, but inside of sessions, I often make decisions to avoid certain topics or exercises which are beneficial, or needed, because of my discomfort with vulnerability."

I do this...but I run. Vulnerability. Several times in session I have told him I feel as if I need to run and get away. He is firm in telling me I need to finish the session before I leave.

"Unless I have an emergency (physical illness, scheduling conflict, etc.) that requires me to cancel my session, I will wait at least 24 hours from my first strong desire to cancel (or other distancing actions like returning his gifts) before taking any action. Feelings of terror, projections, and transference, do not constitute an emergency."

I am going to copy this into my journal and also put it in my planner (I always have it with me) to refer back to when I am feeling off balance.

As far as the questions go...I will be working on them the next few days in my journal. I loved the questions and will definitely follow through with addressing them in my journal.

It is very difficult to allow myself to be seen. It is easier to be invisible. I know if I am not seen, everything is okay.

I am encouraged by your post and know I just need to be committed, no matter what. The push/pull is very real to me...sometimes when I leave the session...I think he won't want to see me again and find myself wanting reassurance about that.

He said that will change as I keep coming back and seeing that he is still 'here' and not going anywhere.

It does make a lot of sense. I appreciate it and am going to make a copy of it.

SmilerThank you for giving your heart SmilerT.
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The push/pull is very real to me...sometimes when I leave the session...I think he won't want to see me again and find myself wanting reassurance about that.


Cry Hug two

I know just how this feels. It used to be, no kidding, every single time, that he couldn't stand me, was so over-burdened by me that he secretly wished I would never return. If it helps at all, now this only happens when we have breaks (we are about to have one, which wouldn't be a huge deal for most people, but it means possibly missing two sessions in a row), and I start to project he's wishing I'd never return. I'm so sorry you struggle with that. It's so painful to feel hated in that way. It is painful, because we were taught to hate ourselves. But, even more painful is the realization that my T has helped me to have that I probably literally did pick up on my parents, at times, resenting my existence, feeling burdened by a helpless child, even hating her. To know that you were hated to the point of having your needs rejected and neglected, or threatened and corrupted by abuse, and there was nothing you could have done to change it, because it was about someone else's own wounds, and not you yourself, is a massive thing to try to grieve. The helplessness and shame buried in that place are unfathomable. I honestly could not face it without someone so safe by my side.



(((everyone))) Thanks for all the support. It's hard for me to "see" it right now, because I'm feeling hopeless about some areas of stuckness, but to have people believe FOR you when you feel like you can't is a beautiful gift.

TAS, we're believing FOR you as well, that these things can change and you can face the pain, bit by bit, as much as you can look at and hold in your hands as a time. You are precious and valuable. Don't give up on you and when you feel like you are, remember that others are not giving up on you. Side note: Your T's "Okay" in accepting your boundaries is not giving up on you either. It's him saying you are allowed to have that control of what you will face. If you hear it as him giving up on you, try to tell him. I had to tell T that sometimes his "Okay, you don't have to," when I would admit to struggling was heard as, "You can stop trying/fighting; it doesn't really matter." That's not what they're saying. They're just trying to give us the right to say no that we never had.
Rebuilding me and Mallard, thanks for commenting - i am sorry you guys are the same, but it feels comforting knowing that i am not the only one. I talked about this with my T today. Yes she calls me on a weekend - I feel incredibly guilty and that it is "breaking rules" - but she does it every single saturday to keep the connection and to keep me safe.... So i was telling her of this struggle that I have and she listens and kind of laughs (in a supportive way not a mocking way) and I realise that it is all my problem and this is what therapy is about. her being reasonable and being a caring human being - really triggers me!!!! Such basic things in life. I cannot accept her kindness nor anyone elses because I feel that I don't deserve anything nice in life.

I was crying because I said to her "I cancelled you next week and you won't accept it and you are giving me time to work out how I feel and what I need. I don't deserve this. I cancelled and you shouldn't let me change. I made a decision". she kept saying "it is ok, I know you are in a bad way and you are allowed to change your mind and I am not filling your spots. I am being consistent because I am going to be there for you if you choose to turn up. I want you to be there".

Just as much as Tas wants her T to reschedule her appts - I want my T to fill my spots. I feel like I deserved to be punished for making that decision. My T is trying to teach me that I matter and that people care and I am allowed to ask for help. I don't believe her yet.

SD

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