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In group therapy today, I was pretty much the center of the hour and a half. Mainly because the group leaders were saying that I've been quiet the past few weeks, and they wanted to know what was going on. Needless to say, a lot was brought up, and I was said to have been "digging my heels in" in my attempts to limit self-disclosure. All of the other group members (including 1 of the 2 group leaders) expressed frustration in me that I wouldn't talk freely about myself and that I wouldn't just confront my parents about how they make me feel when they say/do certain things.

Anyway, I also got frustrated today, because I was sitting there, listening to other people say how I just have to bite the bullet and remind myself that I'm an adult, my parents are adults, and they can deal with whatever I have to tell them. One group member said that despite what I have to say, they will fight for my love; I was also told that, since things never turn out the way we expect, then I should go ahead and talk to them, since I can't know, and shouldn't try, to anticipate the outcome of a conversation with them. My frustration stems from having all of these other things that I deal with regarding my parents. Like, I don't lay down and submit to my parents because I feel like it's my duty as a child to do so, but I do it because it's the only way to keep the peace, and because I don't have anyone else. I don't do or talk much with my father, which is good, considering he's the raging narcissist in the family. But my mother seems like she gets blinded by selfishness sometimes, but I'm quick to just give in to her, because she's the only person I have. If I make her angry with me, she may see my point of view eventually, but I have no where to go, no one to turn to, in the mean time. One of the group leaders briefly pointed this out; he asked me if I had a group of people to turn to and talk about the problems I'm having with my parents, and I said that I don't. However, I think this went largely unnoticed by the group, and more frustration was expressed that I wouldn't just talk to my parents. There are SO many reasons why I act and behave the way I do, and I'm not saying that they are necessarily the right things for me to do. But it's so tough to hear all of these things from others when there just simply isn't enough time (and I don't have enough courage) to explain the many, many reasons why I do some of the things I do.

One of the group leaders said that group is a good place for me to test out self-disclosure and confiding in them so that I could feel confident enough to confront my parents. But with only 3 group sessions left, what's the point? I'd lose that support, which would defeat the whole purpose. Even though I disclosed more than I ever have in group therapy (today was the 7th session), I feel so misunderstood, defeated, sad, and helpless right now.

On a positive note, I am traveling with our university's gospel choir to Chicago on Friday (12 hours away) where we will be performing at 3 churches and at Navy Pier. Hopefully, once I make it through this week, I'll be able to put some of this stuff aside and enjoy the weekend. I just don't know what to do right now.
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{{{{{Kashley}}}}}

I probably don't have anything helpful to say except that what you describe, being the focus of a group confrontation for an hour and a half, on the subject of my relationship with my parents, makes my skin crawl. Gads. Eeker I admire you for sticking it out. I really do believe I would have felt ganged-up on, burst into tears, and walked out within the first ten minutes. I am most definitely a one-on-one girl. And I know from what you've said before that you'd prefer the one-on-one too. I really wish for you that you could have that. What they are attempting sounds like way too much for this setting and it is no wonder you are feeling misunderstood. But that's just this one introvert's opinion. Razzer

The trip to Chicago sounds like fun! That's great that you are in a gospel choir. I hope that your performances go well and that you are able to get out and enjoy some of the city, too. Smiler

Take care,
SG
Hi SG,

Thanks for the reply...and from introvert to introvert, I agree! Razzer I think I sort of shut myself off completely from my feelings to keep from showing how much some of the comments were affecting me. Nonetheless, it was pointed out that I had some sort of facial reaction to one of the comments, but I can't remember what she was referring to. I really didn't get in touch with how I was actually feeling during the session until afterwards, though. And I realized that I did feel ganged up on. I also realized that I think a lot of advice was given, which is, in general, a no-no in group therapy. But it explains why each comment from other members seemed to just beat me down a little more. I left group feeling horrible about myself, wondering why I can't just wipe the smile off my face, spill my guts, confront my parents, and stand up for myself. Of course, a bit of reason kicks in following those thoughts, but it only dials them down a little bit, rather than eliminating them. I know, logically, that it's unrealistic for me to be able to do those things, but I still feel like I should be able to.

In an odd way, I think I really needed today, though. I've decided to email my T at the university here and ask her for a referral off campus so that I can get steady, on-going therapy. I can't take this whole in-and-out of therapy thing. I'm being asked to open myself up and trust and confide in someone else, which is something I've never done, and I'm being asked to do it when I know that, after 10 sessions, it will be months before I can get back in to either group or individual therapy.

Now, I've made the decision to email my T, so step 1 is done. Step 2 however, actually sending the email, is a little trickier. I am asking such a simple question that I know she will respect and understand, but I'm so unreasonably intimidated and scared to ask, and I don't know why.
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Kashley,

I can't give you a thorough response right now, but I did want to say that the story of this group session made me really mad. I've never had group therapy, but I'm very cautious of group experiences for this reason. I work a lot with groups, and I've seen it happen so many times - without proper direction, things can go in weird directions. People go with the collective emotional energy, which may have little to do with the realities of the CONTENT being discussed at all.

Sounds like there was some anxiety over the fact you hadn't been talking. My guess is people felt exposed by that, and wanted to even things up. As a result you copped a whole lot of 'advice' that wasn't actually attentive to your feelings and the details of your situation (the advice, incidentally, seems geared to making you & your situation seem more like them and their situations). I would be very cautious about taking the emotions or the advice on board. I wish the therapists had been more in control of it.

Glad to hear you are investigating more 1-on-1 work for yourself, if it feels like the right direction for you. Good luck with sending the email.

J
Hi Jones,

At the end of the session, one of the group members said that she would be doing exactly what she was telling me to do (talk to her parents), so I do think that you are right in the sense that things became about other people's situations. It's just that there was such a lack of understanding from other people, including the group leaders. I can't just tell myself to tell all and then go ahead and do it. Unfortunately, the majority of the group is the type of personality that can, so it's hard for them to understand what's so hard about it for me. We are going to miss next week's group, because of Easter, but come the week after that, I know I'm going to be petrified. I have a feeling I'll just shut down if I'm grilled again.

Thanks for the compliment and encouragement. I've never really been able to identify what I need, so it is a very big step for me to feel enough of a shift that I'm going to pursue something that's one-on-one. I guess the thing I keep worrying about in sending the email to my former T is that my feelings will be dismissed, considering I just had a particularly tough session. I know that the therapists talk to each other, and I know that the group leaders have mentioned things about me to my T, because she told me in one of our last sessions. She sounded like she didn't know any of the content of what was said, but I'm not sure. But the content doesn't even really matter...I'm just worried that I'll be written off as overreacting, considering she may have at least heard that the session was hard for me and that I revealed more than I ever have.
Hi Kashley
I haven't posted anything yet in response to your posts, but I want to let you know that I read them.
I also was once in a gruop therapy for a limited period of time (couple of weeks programme). The group was quite big and it was for free so quite many people wanted to take this opportunity. I understand how difficult it must have been for you to speak in the group, because I know I didn't want to talk too much myself. Luckily there were a few more talkative people there and to be honest it was quite helpful just to be there and listen to them. Perhaps the setting wasn't the best (big group, limited time), but I noticed that my attitude towards people in the gruop started to change and if the therapy lasted longer and goup was smaller, I probably would have grown more trust and eventually opened up. However it ended. It was still interesting experience and as I was trying to get out of my depression it probably gave me a couple of hints and insights of what actually was going on with me.

Anyway, from your posts I notice that you feel that you do need and want therapy, so I think you should go for it and find yourself a therapist with whom you will feel safe, not limited by number of sessions you can have. I suppose sometimes a short therapy is better then no therapy at all, but you feel yourself that you need more.
I don't know if goup therapists are supposed to reveal anything that you said in group therapy to your T. I don't know how it works there between them, but I would think that it should be all confidential. Maybe they could tell her something but really without going into details. I don't think they would do this.

I just want to add that I've been in my therapy for a year now and it did make a lot of difference in my life already. I do feel significant change. It's difficult at times, but if you feel you need it and if you do have the oportunity - go for it.
Hey Amazon,

I'm so glad I've found this forum, because it has sort of been a way for me to answer (or at least placate myself for a while) the questions I have about therapy, relationships, life... Razzer I over-think things a TON, and without individual therapy, I have all of these things floating around in my head, and the pressure gets relieved a little bit by reading through everyone else's posts.

I can't really see how such a large group would have been therapeutic except to the exceptionally brave people who didn't hesitate to speak up, but I'm glad you were able to get something out of it. One of the things that we started out with in the session yesterday was the question of what we've gotten out of group therapy so far. With only 3 sessions left, the group leaders brought it up so that we could start thinking about it. I really couldn't pinpoint one specific thing that I've gotten out of it, and I keep berating myself for it. I know that I can only get things out of therapy according to what I put in, and I keep thinking that I should have pushed myself more or something. I don't know. Hopefully, if I can get some individual therapy with a good therapist, I can explore why I had such a hard time.

My stomach is rolling, but I think I'm going to go ahead and type up an email for my T and ask for a referral. I wish I could continue with her, but I hope that once I find someone good, I'll be able to move forward. Thanks for sharing your experience, Amazon. Smiler

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