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It seems like I've accepted the fact that my son's former T can't be my friend (for at least another 1 year, 10 months, 28 days and 9 hours Roll Eyes ). I miss her and think about her often, but it's not as urgent and critical as it seemed just a couple of weeks ago.

But I am finding myself lacking in the very things she was able to give me, the reasons why I came to depend on her so much. And when I think about it, it makes me miss her more, so I'm trying not to think about it. (As you can see, I've not been very successful since I'm up at 12:30 at night writing this post.)

She gave me hope, courage and confidence. And for the past week or so, I haven't felt any of those things. I'm finding myself getting more depressed and less hopeful about everything in my life. I liked the person I was uncovering and I don't want to go back, but I'm not sure how to do it without her there backing me up.

When I think about how I'm feeling it's like there's a huge void, waiting to be filled. I'm not too hopeful it will be filled anytime soon, so I'm trying to figure out how to work around it and get out of this depression.

OW
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OW,
Sorry, it looks like I missed you by only a couple of hours. I can't sleep either and after tossing and turning for 2 1/2 hrs I finally got up and decided to check in to see who's been around.

I am sorry that you are feeling unfulfilled and lacking what you need. I know it can be a very lonely and painful process, but at least a little less lonely having so many here on the forum who understand this miserable heartbreak we endure.

I think about how you say that she gave you hope, courage, and confidence and I so know how that feels and how we naturally long to be around someone who makes us feel that way. But the truth is she actually only helped you discover the feelings that already exist within you. Those are yours and you already own them and they are yours to access any time. That person you were uncovering is real and deserving of liberation and hope; to be the loving, kind, warm, generous, courageous, and confiddent person she already is. You can never go back once you've awakened that realization, although I know it remains a struggle. It feels like we take 1 step forward and several steps back, but in reality we are always gaining new ground. It just feels like the same old stuff but it's different fragments and different layers so it can be very bewildering.

Depression can feel like a very dark and endless place when you're there. But I have learned that the good feelings can still be found. They're still within us and we have to find something to draw them back up. I remember a friend (who happens to be a therapist) told me a long time ago to "challenge" my depression. I don't know what it was about her words but something clicked and I realized I really did have a choice to keep feeling this way or not and I have the power to create whatever circumstances I need to get out of it. Sometimes I get so involved in my depression that it becomes like a vicious cycle. My T always tells me to list the emotions or problems in the particular cycle I am going through and then do something to change one or two things in that cycle and it will slow down enough for you to get a grip. It takes a lot of effort, but it always works. Sometimes I go for a walk, or play with my dog, take a hot bath, or find something that usually brings me a measure of joy; even if it's only a little joy for the moment. Just yesterday (although right now it sill feels like today)I found that all I wanted to do was sit at home in my pajamas and a friend invited me to go with her to run a couple errands. That's all we did and I returned home feeling much better. We didn't talk about my problems (this time) or have a heart to heart. There was no pretending that every thing was ok either, it was just an opportunity for me to change my surroundings for a couple hours and it worked. OW, I don't mean to make this sound simplistic or like a lecture by any means, but I am in the same boat and when that boat starts filling with water you know you gotta start bailing. (hands over extra bucket)

I believe that huge void will be filled for both of us someday. I have felt severe pangs about it lately myself wanting to be a part of my T's life because when I'm around her I feel important and worthwhile, among other things. I remember once when I told her how much I enjoyed being with her she asked why and I listed several reasons to which she replied, "Good, because that means you're starting to like being around yourself. All those reasons you listed are a result of being heard and making time for YOU. It's all about you here, isn't it?" (Huh, yeah it is all about me here.Smiler)

I guess that's another good indication why friendships and therapy don't mix because then the needs become skewed and is no longer about just us, and the whole reason why we "need" that relationship in the first place gets lost in a dual relationship. Perhaps that is why your sons T insists on waiting 2 years before she will forge a friendship with you giving you time to overcome the powerful transference feelings. Then you are not entering into an unbalanced relationship as you would otherwise. Someone such as your sons T and my T (and all T's) are in positions of authority and power and can do much harm when altered and they are usually not as fulfilling as we dream they would be anyway. My T just told me in so many words the other day that if I were one of her friends she would have far less time for me. I would lose every thing I cherish most. I believe that I already have the very best of her she has to offer.

I am sorry if I am sounding like I am rambling and trailing into my own needs, but I wanted to let you know that you are not alone. I hope that somehow my words hit the spot I am aiming for, because that is where thay are coming from.
JM
Thank you JM and HB.

I'm still having a hard time getting my thoughts out on paper or on the computer (I haven't written in my journal for a couple of days either, until tonight when I was able to get out a few paragraphs).

But I wanted you to know I appreciate everything you've said and I'm reading it over and over, and over again.

OW (((takes bucket and starts bailing, one bucketful at a time)))
OW,
I know how that feels struggling to get your thoughts out when feeling so bad and you need to get them out. I've seen a lot of blank pages in my journal lately too. Remember, as horrible as this feels it is only temporary. I know that doesn't make much of a difference right now though, does it? Right now it may not feel temporary and you may want to throw something at me by now.
I always liked this song, but when HB posted this link before it took on new meaning to me and I listened to it over and over when I was feeling so down.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPz3YaIJkjQ

And here is another personal anthem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLC73DB7jE8

Hang in there and remember you're not alone.
JM
Sorry about the Mariah Carey thing. I just like the message in that song that speaks to the hero within ourselves. If you're like me you may have a hard time believing that, but I find that the power of music can stir it up sometimes. I know, I know, I'm sappy.

I guess I am reaching out to convince myself as much as you because I am still feeling like I am on the fringes of barely surviving. Last night I felt a strange calmness after processing some really deep and confusing stuff in therapy yesterday. I still feel ok this morning, but like it could go either way. I'm hoping for the upside this time.
JM
You're right - the song is inspiring. I even listened to it again earlier today. Usually I listen to Nirvana when I'm down and out... I don't know why but it calms all my wandering thoughts.

I went to my T today and she asked me how I was doing and it took me a while to come up with the answer. I told her I feel like I can't think clearly, a bit depressed, not as worried about everything as I have been, but told her all the things I said in the beginning of this thread.

She really didn't offer much except to say that she thinks I'm handling all my feelings about my son's T well, from what she'd read in my journal. And that it may take a little while longer.

It wasn't a very productive session I don't think... we ended up talking about internet relationships most of the time. I think she wanted to make sure I wasn't using internet relationships to replace real-life or potential real-life relationships. I assured her that I wasn't because before the internet, I didn't have many "real-life" friends and now I still don't. It's not keeping me from going out and making friends because I never did that anyway.

Anyway, I hope that strange calmness you're feeling has turned into a better mood for you.

OW

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