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About a month ago my husband and I started marriage counseling...again. This I think is our third go around in the 11 yrs we've been married. A lot of our struggles stem from my depression and his ADD. Now we have a young daughter who is hyperactive and hypersensitive and she is kicking our butts. My T has been recommending marriage counseling (MC) for some time now but I just didn't think I was ready to do it again.

My T however referred me to a MFT that sounded like someone who could help us. He has a lot of experience and knowledge of ADD and depression. I don't think any of our past MFT's had any real knowledge or personal experience with ADD. If any of you are familiar with it you will know that a lot of ADD thinking and behavior simply defies logic. The kind of weird thing about this MFT though is that he is her husband. When she first recommended him (I guess I'll call him Mr. T for the lack of a better term Big Grin) it was the first time she had ever really mentioned her husband let alone told me anything about him. I knew he was a T (his name is on the door too) but I hardly ever expected to meet him. I never really tried to picture what her husband was like but when I first met him I was surprised. I guess he is just so different from her and has a totally different therapy style. Plus MC has a totally different dynamic than personal therapy that it is taking me a bit to get used to it.

Last week I talked about how I felt about not having any more children. I feel that is was an important piece of information since I am still so sad about it. I think about a 1/2 second after I stopped talking Mr. T completely changed the subject. I was too suprised to ask him why. It seemed like a really weird thing to do. I did end up asking my T if this is some specific therapy technique or something and I got the feeling that she thought it was pretty weird too. Of course all she said was that if it happens again I really should address it then and there. That is hard enough for me to do with her and I have been seeing her for 2+ years! Of course I do spend some of the time in MC sessions wondering about my T & Mr. T's relationship when I should be listening to what is being said. I try to forget that he is her husband sometimes just so I can stay focused on what is going on. Since she has told me so little about herself, my T instructed me to ask her about anything Mr. T may say about her that I find confusing. I guess he uses a lot more self-disclosure than she does. This might all be very interesting. (And hopefully helpful to my marriage of course. Wink)
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River,

I can certainly understand the “weirdness” in seeing your T’s husband for marriage counseling and all that would invoke. I sometimes DO imagine what my T’s husband would look and act like. I wonder if I were to ever meet him or see him if I’d approve of how he really is. LOL! Wink I so badly wanted to ask my T if she had any pictures of her vacation, but on the other hand I am afraid to see what he looks like for fear I may not be ABLE to say "Oooh what a hunk!" Or fear that he is (as I imagine he SHOULD be) and that I MIGHT say "Oooh what a hunk!" Either way would be embarrassing and inapproprate. Big Grin

I think I would have a hard time focusing in your shoes too and not drifting off wondering about their relationship. I feel myself blushing at the thought of it. Red Face
*"wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more!"

JM
River,
And I thought it was bad seeing my T for both individual and marital counseling. I have to deal with being close to another client of his but I think I really prefer that to having to meet his wife. I would go nuts trying to figure out their relationship (and although I'm not proud of it, I know a part of me would be looking for signs of strife or discord in hope that their was an opening I could exploit. Hey, I'm as entitled to far flung fantasies as the next girl. Smiler )

I find it totally understandable that you're occasionally drifting. I know I do during my couples sessions sometimes. You're being given an opportunity to see more of your T's life, it makes sense you feel this way.

If you find it's getting really intrusive, you could meet with him alone and discuss it. Although I can see where you would want to learn to trust him more. As for the totally changing the subject, it does sound weird, but I find that sometimes my T does stuff in MC that seems strange to me but it's because he's also taking care of my husband. There have been times where we've spent my individual session talking about something that happened in MC (especially when I have been hurt or angry or felt abandoned by something he did in the session.) Well, at least you can say it's not boring. Smiler There's an old Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times." I'm afraid you're living in interesting times right now.

AG
At our last MC session Mr. T admitted to us that he is stumped. He is not sure how to help us deal with our present impossible situation. He is going to consult his colleagues about us. (I wonder if one of these colleagues is my T? Probably not since I haven't given either permission to talk about me to the other.) So ya'll can guess how enthusiastic I feel right now. I was already feel the depression creeping up after my Mon night session with my T. After this "good news" from Mr. T on Thurs Its all I can do to not go to bed and stay there. Not that my daughter would ever let me stay in bed for more than like 10 minutes! Sometimes I wish I had just an ounce of her energy so that I could keep up!

So, has anyone had a T admit to being stumped before? This was a new one for me.
Hi River,
Yeah, I have had a T admit to being stumped. There was a time when I was working with my first T where we hit really bad resistance in working through my trauma. We hit a brick wall and couldn't figure out a way around it or through it. She consulted with a colleage about me and got some ideas for how to deal with it. We worked our way through it. I know it must feel very discouraging to have your T admit to being stumped but I'm glad he is. What would be a lot worse would be him stumbling along and at best, wasting your time and at worst doing more damage. The fact that he is willing to admit he doesn't know what to do and is getting help is a good sign of his committment to your and your husband's well-being. And not every T runs into every situation. So one of his colleagues may know exactly how to deal with your situation or at least have an idea for an approach. Try to keep your chin up; remember what I've said about it being the darkest before the dawn.

And I totally understand about your daughter. I think children should come with adapters that would allow parents to suck some energy from the kids so they have more and the kids have less to create a more equitable situation! Smiler
I can tell you that will get better with time. I was very grateful when my kids got old enough to start sleeping in. Sheer bliss!

AG

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