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Overall it went really really well. He listened, said he was sorry, said he didn’t handle last week well at all, understood where I was coming from, and at the end said he wanted to continue processing/working on all this with me.

Right when I sat down I said that I wanted to go over everything starting with our Tuesday session 2 weeks ago. I told him that seeing a consult therapist was in no way because I wanted to end therapy with him, I really just wanted another perspective, and another option/ or opinion. I told him what the other therapist had said in terms of creating a “support group” of people that can all bring different aspects of health, for example seeing an acupuncturist, a massage therapist, and a spiritual mentor, at the same time staying with my therapist for talk therapy. I also told him about the other place he told he told me about that offers DBT groups and workshops all focused on trauma. After I told him all that he said a couple things, basically thanking me for explaining all of this, and that he did misunderstand and/or assume some things.

Then I also talked some about how I feel about the way he handled the “termination” and that I feel it was unethical and honestly just cruel. I also went into some of my feelings around him being cold and detached. He listened to all of that, and seemed to really hear and understand what I was saying.

**I wanted to add in my little breakthrough moment so I don’t forget! (I lost my little mic thing 2 weeks ago and haven’t recorded sessions, great timing huh?!?) I was talking about reading what “proper” terminations are, and that it’s supposed to be a process done over a period of time and there should be 3 termination sessions for every year in therapy, and everything that should be talked about during pre-termination. So after explaining all that I said, “And I know that I didn’t do anything so awful that would make it so that I don’t deserve all that. I deserve to be treated with respect, and it’s not okay for anyone, including you, to treat me with anything less than that.” He looked really happy and also a little surprised and said, “Wait, what did you say?” and I said again, “I said I deserve to be treated with respect!” And I don’t remember exactly what he said after that but something about how I sound completely different than I did in our session two weeks ago and he’s really amazed and something about how he thinks it great.
I don’t know exactly how I went from believing that I deserve absolutely nothing, and I am on put on this earth for people to take advantage of, to now 2 weeks later, honestly believing in my core that I deserve respect… but that’s pretty cool I guess!

I think this was the point when he said he's amazed how well I’m doing, and I explained how I still feel everything that I felt last week, even though I’m trying to take this session to explain and talk and discuss things clearly, and he said that he understands and I’m doing an amazing job doing that!

Then he asked me what I want to do now….. wow that’s a loaded question… I was kinda confused and didn’t really know how to respond, so I said that he knows what MY plan was for us and our professional relationship, but obviously our plans didn’t match up. I said that I know that I am only one side of this relationship and there are other reasons that don’t have anything to do with me that would cause you to need to end our working relationship, such as any counter-transference that you would feel prevents us from working together any longer. Even if I say “yes I want to keep working with you!” I don’t want him to feel pressured whatsoever if there is any counter-transference or any reason at all that he can’t continue working with me. He seemed sort of surprised by all that and said that he hadn’t heard me take a listening approach in here before and that it was nice to watch.

So then I told him about my crazy week of dreams, and that was pretty much the end. He asked if I felt heard during this session again (he also asked in the middle), and I said yes and that I’m very proud of him and that he did a good job today. He laughed looked a little awkward when I said that which was funny. So we have a session next week… I don’t know exactly what's going to happen like if I'm going to stay with him or whatever, but for now we are in agreement that we have a lot to talk about and work on and we are going to work though it together.

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
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UV, There were misunderstandings, and even if this whole thing was one big misunderstanding, I still dont believe that it excuses the session last week. But it does make me feel better. I do think he feels bad for everything too, and I think that we've both learned a lot (even though I'm trying hard not to assume any of his feelings!)
yeeeeeey, Mac Smiler Thanks for sharing from your session. I was wondering if you T gave any answers at all when you brought up him maybe dealing with countertransference? (i bet he didnt, but maybe he gave some reasons for why he acted like he did??)

I was happy to read about this session, and lots of creds to you for standing up for yourself, saying you deserve to be treated with respect!! Smiler I am also pleased that your T liked that part! Obviously.

I hope the two of you together manage to come to one agreement on making a "working plan" about your therapy.
Well done Mac!
I have been going back and forth yesterday and this morning from being so happy and cared for and listened to and then back into panic and confusion and wondering if I will ever be able to trust him again and WHY THE HELL HE SCREWED THIS ALL UP SO BAD. How the hell am I supposed to believe that he won’t get freaked out again, or feel okay about outside contact, when outside contact was what caused this whole thing. I won’t ever be able to go back to where I was when I truly believed on a core level that he won’t abandon me. And I’m really scared that I’m going to become happy and cheerful and tell him all the great things that are happening in my life just so he doesn’t freak out again. But then I go back to believing that we need to take one step at a time, and that while everything isn’t perfect right now, we are going to work on it together and I have him there for support. But even then I’m still mad at him for screwing everything up so badly- it sucks for therapists that they can’t just make a normal mistake in their job like everyone else without messing with someone’s psyche.



Thanks Liese, df, frog, and butterfly.

Liese- He said that over the past few weeks (because I asked him why he switched on me so fast, the previous weeks he said nothing about not being the right therapist and then in the very next session all I heard was “I’m not the right therapist for you.”) he has been thinking and considering and listening to the way my traumas are integrated into who I am or something like that, and that I would benefit more from a trauma specialist. I don’t believe him that he had thought about it for weeks, I think he just got freaked out last week and didn’t understand me seeing consult therapists. But really I have no idea.

Df- I'm trying to take things slowly and see how I feel in working though the 'termination' last week. I might not ever be able to trust him again- who knows.

Frog- He didnt give me answers about the countertransference (and I wouldn't expect him to) he seemed appreciative that I understood that he had feelings separate from mine about our relationship.

Butterfly- Thank you Smiler. I’m pretty happy I stood up for myself too!
Mac,

Hey I just want to say that all your swinging back and forth sounds completely normal to me considering what you've been through. If you didn't have those questions in your mind, I'd be concerned. Even in the mist of all this muck, you sound so rational and reasonable. I have a good feeling that you are going to be able to work this through. I hope so anyway.

((HUGS)))

Liese
I forgot my mic for my ipod so I couldnt record our session (i ordered a new one) and I really needed to type this all out so I figured i'd post.

I don’t know how to start this…. soooooo uhhhhhhhh…. Here we go:

Yesterday and the weekend were both really bad. I wanted to call him so badly and see if he was still the person I knew him to be, but what if he wasn’t? What if he cut me off and wouldn’t listen? Where would that leave me? I decided that the possibility was too painful and I had to wait till I saw him in person.

Right away I knew it would be okay because I didn’t feel the brick wall, and he listened and was responsive to my small talk about how beautiful the Sound and all the boats looked today, and Oprah’s new sister. I then talked about my boyfriend and I and our date that we have for Valentine’s Day. After he was nice about that I decided I could go into some deeper things. I said that I’m not sure if it’s okay to have feelings now, because I feel like he made it very clear 2 weeks ago that it was wrong, I wasn’t allowed to, and/or that he wanted nothing to do with any of me or my feelings. And that also goes along with the whole theme of trying to figure out which person was real, because the person that I knew for a year and a half was not the same as the person from 2 weeks ago. I said I am still really struggling (and got a choked up here) with all the feelings that I had 2 weeks ago, but I don’t know if those are still off limits. I paused and he just looked at me so then I said, “sorry if this is too much, you don’t have to answer anything, I can talk about something else!” He said no, and it was okay, so I got out my breakfast and drank my tea so he could think.

Basically all he said was that he had taken into consideration everything that I said last week, and the way I was able to look at our relationship and my progress so logically, and my whole demeanor was so mature, and I had some very mature and thoughtful statements, and he believes that we can continue working together because of that. I was disappointed by this answer. I told him that the person he saw last week and my “mature demeanor” was who I am outside of therapy all the time. I can portray a very mature and thoughtful person, but since its therapy, and I don’t feel that I have to have any of my normal defenses up, I feel free to be “childish” and extremely emotional and not rational and just let all my feelings and thoughts hang out without having to have that mature and logical exterior. And it made me feel even more that my “intense” emotions were not allowed here, because for him to keep working with me I had to be mature and logical. He quickly said that he didn’t mean whatsoever I had to be like that all the time, just that it was nice last week because he felt that we were really able to talk and see each other. I guess I understand that. We still have a lot to work on in this area though.

He said he had a couple things he wanted to go over. First he brought up the doctor/psych eval or medication thing. I said that I had been wanting to talk about a psychiatrist for a few weeks now but kept forgetting. I then told him all about my big vacation coming up and all the anxiety that will come with that. He was supportive of getting anti-anxiety medication just for the vacation, which I knew he would be because he is always supportive of meds…. UGGG…. But I agreed with him on this that most of the time I can use self-coping skills, but there are certain times when brain chemicals take over, and it would be nice to just have the option of taking something if I feel like I’m getting too overwhelmed and my normal coping skills that I use aren’t helping.


*****In the following paragraph only there is some talk about sexual assault and the feelings that come from it

Then that led to a conversation about how I realized about a week and a half ago that I don’t have a single symptom of PTSD anymore… Pretty much at the same time when I started using mindfulness for flashbacks they just stopped happening, I didn’t realize that till I thought about the last time I had a flashback. Then that led into talking about what I’ve realized about “shack guy”- the experience that I wrote about in my thread “so much shame”. I said I feel now that absolutely nothing he did has any reflection on who I am, and that I gave him a lot of power over me. The thing that HE did does not mean that I am dirty, worthless, or have no voice. What he did is because of him, and has no reflection on me as a person, and I’m not giving him the power anymore to make me feel that way. T was shocked to say the least…. He said I sound like a different person from where I was a few weeks ago. I said the amazing thing is that I “knew” all this before, in that I had the thoughts in my head, but now I feel and believe it on a core level. It feels so different to go from having the thoughts in my head, to now feeling it in my body. This feels like an unshakable core belief; I am strong, I have a voice, and I deserve respect.

Also, he asked me why I’ve seemed uncomfortable with him smiling or laughing this session. I asked him why he was smiling or laughing everytime, even if i knew. I said that I was uncomfortable with any feeling that he has because I am worried about him and I don’t want him to get freaked out again. He asked if that was what I think happened and that he told me the truth several times (the truth being that he had decided over a period of time that he is not the right therapist for me, and that I need a trauma specialist). I said that I know he told me those words, but his actions and the feelings that I got from him didn’t line up with that. I felt someone who was very scared and had no idea what to do. And I also don’t want the brick wall to go back up…. And he said “that’s fair”… which I was happy that he didn’t deny it.

We then talked a little about continuing trauma work whether it be through group therapy/massage therapy/spiritual mentorship or whatever. He gave me the number of the woman who runs the emotional skills class, and the number of a psychiatrist. It turns out that we will only be able to have 2 sessions in February because of his vacation and then my vacation, but I’m actually okay with that. It gives me more time to take a breather and process while still knowing that I have him.
Hi Mac
This has just been huge, hasn't it and i am so glad that you are mangaging to keep your balance and speak up so honestly. And i think that new core belief of yours is brilliant, what a wonderfully supportive thing to have come out of this messy muddly.

You have been a very clever little alchemist to take something so potentially damaging and transform it into such a positive growing experience for yourself, well done. Smiler
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Pan
Mac,

I am so happy to hear that T has come around and re-evaluated the situation and has agreed to continue to work with you. It sounds as though there is still perhaps some level of anxiety about having to maintain the "mature" composure and not feeling free to let your wall down, but I think in time that fear will disappear.

It is refreshing to read a story of a repaired relationship that was on the fringe of Termination.

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