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im in a new relationship w. a woman. its 3 months in.

i always am very expressive saying things like youre so great, youre incredible, etc. im sure i am being a bit excessive because i have been accused of being intense. i do like her for sure too though.

she often says oh thats nice, oh thank you. i told her one day that i find her responses to be so different emotionally than my compliments and she said i love your enthusiasm and i am not expressive like you.

i took that as a statement that this is how i am, i hope you can accept me.

i told my T. he said you are becoming angry at her lack of emotion and thats the problem. i said i understand that but what if the problem is also that i need and want someone to be more expressive. and he said you are not compatible regarding the expression but no one is compatible in all ways but maybe you will fall in love with her and love her lack of expression.

so two questions-
what if my T is saying this is my issue when in fact its totally reasonable to want more expression?

and do you have experience in relationship w. someone less expressive and how were you able to handle it effectively? and i understand it may be early but her saying she is not expressive like me seems like its just how she is.

thanks.
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I think only YOU can decide what your bottom line is for what you need in a relationship and which types of compatibility are most important for you. If it's not an absolute deal-breaker right now, you might continue and see if either you get used to her less-expressive way of being, or that she might become slightly more expressive and you could meet in the middle.
Da Rock,
I want to share something that my husband and I learned in couples' counseling that made a HUGE difference in our relationship and you can try it on to see if it fits. Smiler

When we started couples' counseling, one of the things that we learned is that we both carried a belief system that said there was some rational, impartial scale of behavior that what we wanted and what the other person wanted could be measured against. Whomever fit the scale better "won" and the conflict was therefore the other person's fault and their responsibility to fix. I think I might hear this in your query about how much expressiveness is OK to ask for.

When we acted like this, we ended up in a blame game, and would have endless circular arguments about what the standard was and who was right and who was wrong. This proved to be a disastrous waste of energy and time (didn't stop us from trying it for years. It also made our arguments look like the Daytona 500: around and around the same track. Smiler)

We had to learn two important things. The first is that we didn't need justification for our feelings. Feelings just are and it's ok to express them and what we want. (This was the easier part because it frees you up, you do know the harder part is coming.) The second part is that since there was no need of justification, then there also was not some impartial standard that we were supposed to achieve. Just two people, both of whom had needs and desires and the point of our discussions was to express our needs, listen to the other person and come up with a compromise we could both live with.

So, you're girlfriend is doing NOTHING wrong by not being as expressive. You are doing NOTHING wrong by wanting more expressiveness. (Sit with that for awhile, I found it very uncomfortable in the beginning. Something in me kept insisting that ONE of us must be wrong.) So it's ok for you to ask for more expressiveness. Your girlfriend might be able to change what's she's doing such that it reassures you. Or maybe she's not willing to do that and you have to decide if this level of expressiveness is something you can live with. It's about expressing your needs and owning your own feelings and letting the other person do the same. Then you have to balance the tension all human beings have to which is the fight between our wanting total independence so that we can do what we want to do versus our need for connectedness and considering another person's feelings and needs to achieve that connectedness.

So you're not looking for the RIGHT solution, you're looking for the solution that works for you and her, one that allows both of you to feel comfortable. (If you don't feel comfortable with the solution, resentment builds up). And only the two of you can figure out what that looks like for you. Being as honest as possible and being willing to listen to the other person non-defensively really helps.

AG
hi there ag. great suggestions.
definitely food for thought. my main issue right now is trying to decide what i can live with.
is limited expressiveness acceptable to me, is different interests acceptable, is living with an anxious partner who is a clean freak acceptable.
these are all things im learning about her and all of my reactions are screw this im outta here. and ive done that to many women. and i dont want to be alone. so i need to figure out, what is workable and what is not. i cant just keep dumping people because they arent me.
Hi DaRock,

You've gotten some great responses. I just want to share a conversation some friends and I had over dinner. My H and my one friends H say nice things to us and sometimes in front of other people and neither one of us likes it. My other friend said she loves to hear nice things about herself.

So, there could be more to the picture here in terms of her being more expressive towards you and that is, how she feels about your expressiveness. I'm not at all saying that she is uncomfortable with your expressiveness but all I know is that I'm uncomfortable when my husband is expressive with me so I'm throwing it out there for you to consider. When my H tells me something nice, I always feel a certain pressure to say something in kind. For me, it feels like his compliments come with strings. I haven't figured out yet if that is related to him or to some past figure.

I can't help but wonder if you really want to know how she feels about you. You like her a lot and maybe you're fishing around to find out if she feels the same? Maybe you could ask her how she feels about you and/or how she feels about you being so expressive with her. I'm finding (in therapy) that those types of conversations usually serve to deepen our understanding of ourselves and the other person as well as the relationship.

Good luck and congratulations on the new relationship,

Liese
hi liese. its confusing. ive had this conversation. she states she likes my expressiveness and states she likes my enthusiasm. she also states she wonders about the sincerity of my intensity. and i think she senses it with strings, as you said. which is true. i am trying to find out if she feels the same.

overall the main issue here is how scared i am of this whole thing blowing up or falling apart. im constantly fantasizing she will cheat on me or leave me or things of that nature. and its hard sometimes because that seems to be about me...then something will happen, minor, that she will fail to take full responsibility for, when i feel it is her responsibility...and i start to think oh no maybe she is dangerous. it gets quite confusing in my mind.

but im not in agony over it. which is quite nice i must say. guess therapy works.

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