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Hi Shrinklady and the other friendly peeps,

I'm a noob on the forum and am posting from South Africa!

As a driving coach, Whole Brain Practitioner and Ph.D Metaphysics student I find my greatest challenge in getting people to breach the mental breakthrough they need when learning to drive, although I use a wide blend of skills and experience, even using my background in Medical Insurance.

Today, I "forced" a learner to face up to the fact that she was second-guessing her own judgement which she had built up through training over many months.

After successfully completing several exercises during parking, using her instinct and feeling alone, she had to admit that it was her acquired judgement that afforded her this success.

Although her husband must sometimes think she is led down the garden path, for lack of evidence of progress, little does he know what it takes to lead someone through the gate, criss-cross the whole neighbourhood, visit untold forests AND trees, and then people just see the garden path-bit.

Teaching people to drive is my passion and it's very challenging, when at times, I can be of much assistance BUT the client actually need Psychotherapy to sort other issues before anything I attempt can be of benefit.

I even try to help my drivers "align" their spirit since so many of them have lost touch with the simple, yet majestic art of just BEING which hampers them in the areas of intuition, perception to danger and awareness, if not on the road, then generally. This is the Buddhist in me applying wheel alignment of the soul, I guess.

On a daily basis I deal with Paranoia, Neurosis, Anxiety, PSTD, transference, accident trauma issues, sometimes Bi-Polar (undiagnosed, on/off meds), sometimes Borderline (undiagnosed, on/off meds), lots and lots of patently undiagnosed ADHD, any number of emotional issues, relationship issues at school/work/home, wicked Left Brain Stickiness opposed to Right Brain Fluidness, to name a few...and this is just the people behind the wheel of MY car.

Yip, a passionate driving instructor goes to extraordinary lengths to help. Just as common sense is not all that common anymore since so few people have it - just so, I have found the Broaden and Build Psychology Theory just sometimes tends to not be broad enough...for some, and the building often tends to happen on another planet, before the breakthrough, that is.

Simple Quantum Physics - everything starts off with a single thought. The astounding power of the mind and Mother Nature (feisty bird that she is) are sometimes allies and sometimes enemies - my job is to find the balance...not always that simple when you need to be in motion with crisp cognitive processing n'all, as a driver.

My question:

Would this sorta issues/discussions be deemed valid content on this forum and could I discuss my people's issues, as it relates to my efforts in trying to help them in getting that mental breakthrough so critical for their progress? Trust me, it's almost as good as "Driving Psychotherapy", at times, with selective persons.

Some guidance appreciated, thanks.
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Hello Think Tank welcome to the forum. I don’t quite understand what it is you are wanting to post about, but there’s no harm in putting up a thread and see what responses you get.

My only reservations are that you would be discussing other people’s issues on a public forum (which they may not be very happy about!) and that none of us is a therapist (to my knowledge) therefore we can only talk about our own experiences and thoughts about things.

What you do sounds pretty interesting though! I don’t remember my driving instructor being anything like you lol.

LL
DF

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i think he GOT PTSD whilst teaching me the poor man


Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

I have seriously a problem with right and left - have to really think about it- never instantly obvious, especiallt left! Roll Eyes often wonder if it's anything to do with my poor head feeling so mixed up.....driving test interesting as a result Big Grin

Welcome Think Tank,

starfish
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Originally posted by Lamplighter:
Hello Think Tank welcome to the forum....

..none of us is a therapist (to my knowledge) therefore we can only talk about our own experiences and thoughts about things...


Thanks for the welcome!

OK, OK, so here's how it goes down...

I post about an issue that I have a particular challenge with, and exactly like you said, "we can only talk about our own experiences and thoughts about things". For me, that's perrrrrrrrrrrrrcisely what I'm after - sharing thoughts n'all.

You see, many of my clients have never seen the inside of a therapist's consulting room, whereas on this here forum, there's a wealth of experiences in that particular setting; a wealth of views on matters exactly/similar to what my clients are facing on a daily basis.

Knowing how others cope/manage/conquered, will be of invaluable assistance...possibly even of benefit to forum members while sharing my unique view of life and how we live it. Very few people realise just how psychological driving is and how the psychology behind it can be so debilitating, for some.

Your driving instructor...You would have remembered, if he was anything like me ROFL.

Interesting, you say? The variety of minds I get to deal with is absolutely fascinating, I'll tell you!
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I have seriously a problem with right and left - have to really think about it- never instantly obvious, especiallt left! Roll Eyes often wonder if it's anything to do with my poor head feeling so mixed up.....driving test interesting as a result Big Grin

Welcome Think Tank,

starfish


Thanks for the welcome!

What you go through is experienced by my clients on a daily basis - lemme explain.

A person sorta wants some direction when driving, right? OK, so now the pressure is on Left and Right straight away...

What technically happens, in my experience, is that the mind knows left from right for a looooooooong time before it's brought into question the first time, or repeatedly, as in driving.

Know why? There is HUGE amounts of focus on the words "Left" & "Right", which is a Left Brain-thang where the analysis, logic and stuff happens. The more focus there is on the words, the more the mind struggles and fights while it's being second-guessed, it gets irritated, and eventually seems to start playing trick on you, mistaking one direction for the other.

Know why? Every time the mind is second-guessed, a re-affirmation of expected failure happens, keeping the vicious cycle going. So, technically, every time a person says they don't know their left from their right, their mind says: "OK, BE like that then, confuse me, and see how far you get!"

Now try THIS (I find this often helps):

Direction is a visual-spatial thang, so you want to SEE and DO. When you think and analyse, you bring words into what should be a picture in your mind.

Instead of using the words "left" and "right", replace them with "this way(left)" and "that way(right)" or "up"(right) and "down"(left). A new pattern of bodily orientation will start in the mind which you can re-enforce in many ways....till eventually you're all ready to use the challenging words again.

When people give you directions, DON'T tell them you have a challenge with direction (that will verbally be regressing and mix up your mind again), rather draw yourself a map and put landmarks on it (visual, you see?) and when you should turn right, ask them to confirm by saying "you mean I should turn That Way?"(pointing on your map) or "you mean I should turn towards the gas station's side?"(when on the phone) or "you mean I should turn in the direction of the gas station?"(when on the phone).

You could also ask for opposites as a means of determining. When someone says that a place is on your left, you could also say "you mean that green place opposite K-Mart?", giving them your landmark as a frame of reference, or "what other shops are around that area?". All kinds of people do this ALL the time, so you don't have to be embarrassed or feel strange about it at all.

Short before long, you'll be on your way to brilliant direction - your mind just needs some R&R, me thinks.

Feel better?
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...forgive me for asking but how does medical insurance help people learn to drive?
DF


No worries, you made me feel welcome in any event - I can relate to your sense of humor, you see?

Working in medical underwriting departments and/or new business departments where underwriting is done, gives a person a very good glimpse of issues via doctor's reports and stuff.

I remember some cases to tis day!
Think Tank

That is sooooooo helpful Smiler

OMG you really get the problem !! I do have to think of 'this way' and 'that way' and that's what my poor husband has resorted to when I'm driving. Or sometimes following red cars. green buses etc etc!! I'm at my worst when under pressure too - can normally get right, but left is a tricky one at the last minute, on a busy road in rush hour.....Has led to all sorts of interesting detours.

I also get lost very easily because I seem to have very poor spatial awareness, have to drive somewhere myself to really remember the route, being a passenger is not the same for some reason. But have a brilliant memory for landmarks....

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you could also say "you mean that green place opposite K-Mart?", giving them your landmark as a frame of reference, or "what other shops are around that area?". All kinds of people do this ALL the time, so you don't have to be embarrassed or feel strange about it at all



Ooo thanks for this, that's exactly what I do and find myself remembering all sorts of detail as a result. I think I am so fearful of getting lost Frowner Rubbish with directions, but quite good with a map!!( But have to move it around, upside down etc as we go - my husband just can't get that one either!!!)

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your mind just needs some R&R, me thinks


Indeedy! I think it has for a while now! Thank you Think Tank, that was so helpful. This forum is amazing, I'm even not the only one in the world who has trouble with left and rights!!!!! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

starfish
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Originally posted by starfish:
...I'm at my worst when under pressure too - can normally get right, but left is a tricky one at the last minute, on a busy road in rush hour.....Has led to all sorts of interesting detours...


Now think a bit...

You're anxious in rush hour, your husband is anxious because you're anxious in rush hour, you have a thing about crossin intersections; the ones where you have to cross over alllllll the way in front of all those people you don't trust to remain stationery (among others issues), right?

It's actually real simple. Your mind operates much like Random Access Memory (RAM) in a computer. It can absorb just s much until it has to dump somethng to make space for something new, you see?

When a person crams other people (and what they may get up to) into their mind, there is very little space left for their own planning and procesing of events. It just so happens that their minds then dumps the wrong stuff, in favour of what carries a higher emotional load - like that dreaded SUV that "may" turn int front of them at any moment.

There are many, many ways to combat anxiety on the road.

Best way is Baby Steps...ONE issue at a time.

Will gladly answer more later...

Bed Time now - it's 12:31AM here now :-D
Hi think tank

Actually I don't think it's the driving that bothers me, fine in heavy traffic etc,don't really mind that at all - it's just that I can't be certain I'll go the right way if given directions a bit last-minuteish!! My husband is very used to me now, always jokes that he should just say the complete opposite of where we need too turn, and we'd just get there fine!! Big Grin

starfish

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