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i seem to have done something to accidentally injure my right hand. its been bothering me for a couple of days and this morning i woke up with it half of it numb, black and blue, and all of it swollen. i'm active enough that i do a sprint (short) triathalon every year, but i also have a chronic neuromusclar thing that flares up at times. when something hurts, i tend to ride it out for a few days to see if it's the neuromuscular thing (and i need to see the doc that treats that) or if it is something unrelated. this time, it is for sure something new. i'm upset about it, as i have been struggling with my body a bit lately anyhow - but im off to go see the dr today.

i will probably be a bit absent from typing and posting here until my hand heals from whatever has been stirred up, but i'll be reading.

i guess the good thing is that i am going to go see the dr despite how much i don't want to go. drs. ugh. i don't want to go see anymore of them. can i just trade in this body and mind for a new one?

take care,
~ jd
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thanks everyone. i went and saw my primary care doctor. she was really nice. Smiler

this typing with two fingers on one hand is a pain - please keep bearing with me.

my dr thinks i "probably" tore a tendon in the car accident almost 2 months ago in my finger and it’s now torn more and shifted out of place and that’s why my hand is all messed up. don't know for sure or not though.

she did x-rays and is going to call me later with the results. she says i need to go see the orthopedist if the x-ray is normal (because it can’t show tendons.) i asked her, "and if the x-ray is abnormal?" and i started to almost laugh at myself when i started to ask... and she did too...

she said "um, yeah, you need to go see the orthopedist either way..."

but hey, at least we got the first step out of the way and i don't feel like i'm overreacting to see the orthopedist... right?

i didn’t call the orthopedist this morning because i thought they would think i was overreacting about this and i wanted to see my regular doc that i hoped could tell me if i was or wasn't... the ortho thought that i was overreacting after the car accident, and told me so. they x-rayed my hand and said it was fine - and my hand has been fine for almost two months and just now started hurting – and i didn’t think it could be related. i forgot it was the same hand until i was in the office with my dr today. how could i forget that? (ok, not going to go down the self blame road today…)

i told my dr this and my dr said no, i am not a hypochondriac, it’s not in my head… AND she is going to call the orthopedist today for me. Big Grin she’s a good dr. i almost cried with relief when she said she would call them for me. she said they will likely order an mri when i see the ortho, and if not, to call her so she can get me in to a hand specialist who is more booked out.

im pretty sad and mad and upset about my hand. more grief. i didn't need this! who does though? i guess i just have to take it all one step at a time. i just called my t to tell her how i'm struggling through this emotionally, and i hung up on her voicemail before i could tell her how i was – i will see her tomorrow morning though.

drs and medical stuff can be a huge trigger for me, so i'm glad this step went ok, even though the news is not good.

thanks everyone for understanding and being so kind and supportive. it helps so much.

now back to resting a bag of frozen okra on my hand to ice it. dang i was going to use this okra this week to make gumbo that my friend in boston taught me how to make. takes too much stirring right now though. blah. excuse me while i whine. guess i will be thankful to have two hands back in use whenever this heals.

jd
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Glad your primary care doctor was so supportive and helpful, especially with contacting the orthopedist. You have had one heck of a ride lately...so glad you have your Ts by your side to walk through all this with you. (((Jane))) Will be thinking of you and praying your hand feels better soon. Maybe treat yourself to a nice meal out (or order in)? You deserve it!
Yikes, Jane, that is stinky! (And I'm not talking about the bag of okra once it defrosts!)

Anyway - if you have to have an MRI, they have a new "open MRI" that is, in my mind, SO much better! (I have to have an MRI once a year to check an abnormality in my spine... seriously, nothing about me will ever be normal!) If you're not familiar with it, it's more like a hamburger bun, completely open on three sides. I consider the other MRI like a hot dog bun, only your completely wrapped up Frowner

Sorry you are still dealing with the aftermath of the accident, and how great that your doc rocks! Gotta love it when our "health team" is really batting for us!
thanks everyone!

i have appointment to see the ortho on thurs, and they are trying to find an opening tomorrow. an open mri – oh, that sounds so much easier than the tube. i’ve had the closed mri before, and it’s ok, but I so rather do the open one. i already checked with my insurance, and figured out where i can go for one. good idea!

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how great that your doc rocks! Gotta love it when our "health team" is really batting for us!

yeah, yay for a good dr! feels so good to have her go to bat for me.

i’m hurting tonight and sort of letting myself crawl into bed early. i feel silly and childish about this, but dang, i wanted to go swim and do life this evening, and not huddle here with my bag o’ frozen okra. good night to order in something good for dinner too.
the appointment with the ortho went terribly. he looked at the x-rays, said my hand was deformed and permanently so, said there is no way to prevent the same thing in my other hand, and no treatment for it besides putting it in a brace 24-7 and no use of it for 3 months to a year. Eeker he said the x-rays show no deformity, and only an mri would confirm that there is any deformity or tear of the ligaments, but he’s seen lots of hands though and sees no reason for any mri, nothing, no anything. no hope for it to heal (it = deformity that can’t be see or comfirmed on an x-ray alone anyhow). he said he could send me to a hand specialist but i told him about how i had already called them, and they already said could not see me for 3 months unless he called and asked for a sooner time, which he declined to do saying that there was no way he could get me in to see them sooner - despite the fact that the hand clinic said they could see me sooner if he called. i asked to see a different doctor in the same practice, since i don’t know of any others around within 60 miles that take my insurance, the doctor easily agreed with that (which surprised me), and said to go out to the main desk to make the appointment after the nurse came in with the braces. before he left the room, the doctor said i also likely have carpal tunnel in both hands on top of everything else, worse in the hand with the other injury, and there is no way to treat it nor prevent it from getting worse in the other hand. he said, "it will get worse and there is no way to prevent that. doing so would be like trying to prevent breaking an arm. it just happens.” huh? (i don't know much about carpal tunnel but this seems totally bogus to me.) the dr left, the nurse brough the braces were the wrong size, and i begged for the right size (feeling like a dork because it was two sizes smaller than what she brought) and she finally brought them, and said “oh, gosh, that is a much better fit.” this brought up some internal self hate of my body - no idea why. i went out of the room and started to get teared up as i waited to make the appointment – the words of “permanent deformity” and “no use of my hand for 3 months to a year…” were echoing in my head, along with “nothing else to do about it.” i asked for klneex. about 5 minutes later, as i stood there with red eyes, making no sound, still in line to make the appointment and sign paperowrk to check out and leave, the office manger grabbed by backpack that was by my feet and went into her office with it. she said something, and i don't know what it was. i started to ask where she was going with my backpack, and she came back and litterally grabbed my arm, which set off a flashback. she said something, but i don't know what it was. all i cared about was suddenly she was grabbing me. i started to panic.
i quickly asked her, "please let go."
she said “now listen up, what are you doing asking to see a new doctor? you need to come in my office now and discuss this.”
I started to hyperventiallte and all I could do was say, "please give me back my backpack, I need to leave now.” i did not go into her office and she said i would not get it until I went into her office to discuss seeing a new doctor and i better stop making a scene - i was hyperventilating at this point as she stood in the doorway of her office and me in the waiting room - still in line. i just did not want to go anywhere alone with her. no way. i just wanted to leave. i had to.
i said, “i can not stay. i will have my primary care doctor call you. i need to leave now, please give me my belongings.”
she refused again, saying i needed to come into her office if i wanted them back.
i again said, “no i am leaving now. i can not deal with this now. give me my backpack.” she said “get into my office now.” i did, picked up my backpack from her desk, and she grabbed my arm again, like i was some little child she needed to correct… or worse… i didn’t get it. i don’t think any child or adult she be treated like she did. i immediately said “i have ptsd, you are triggering flashbacks. do not touch me. i am leaving, goodbye.” she said something, but I have no idea what – all i cared about what getting the heck out of there. she let go of my arm, but grabbed a strap on my backpack. “you have no right to grab me or my stuff. let go.” i stopped myself from saying, “or i will scream for help and for someone to call the police and have you arrested for assault and theft” – i almost said that though, but something in me said to be calm and quiet as possible and just get out of there or she would escalate more… i don’t know if she let go or i pulled away strong enough, but I got away and literally ran out crying.

i called my primary care doctor’s office – and they actually were able to get her on the phone. i told her i need a new orthopedist, i don’t care how far away they are. i started to cry and told her i can’t talk – and she said ok, and she would call me back later.
i called my t… i just couldn’t even talk though.

i put the stupid braces in my backpack (after resisting strong impulse to trash them) and put the wrap and splint my doctor gave me, i hopped on my bike (yes, one handed) and got away from there. i’m at a park now, trying to re-group.
i am a magnet for crappy doctors.

and now my primary care doctor just called back (yep, i type slow). she was nice, said i don't have to go back and she's going to get me into the hand specialist asap and she's said it's not permanent and the orthopedist doesn't make sense. she kept reassuring me, it's going to heal. she said to go pick up different thing - an air cast, from her office, that will help hold my hand until i get in and won't make me twist it like the braces did (and was making my hand hurt and go numb)

i just want to go home... no more of this...

i do not like crappy doctors and bossy mean agressive office people... how the heck did that woman get so worked up? no one else had any issue with me - everyone was fine. i just had red eyes, no one cared and i was fine waiting in line. so glad i never ever have to go back there. why did they do that? when would that be ok? never! crud.

jd
I can't believe she laid her hands on you and took your stuff. Can you call your T? People like that should be arrested. I've never had anyone at a doctor's office lay a hand on me without my prior consent. The closest I came was my OBGYN stripping my membranes without permission during my pregnancy. Being touched without permission, especially grabbed repeatedly, would have been so triggering to me too. I'm so sorry. Frowner (((((Jane))))) Wish I could come give you a real hug.
thanks everyone. wish i could type better replies. i will come back and reply more to everyone when i can. thanks so much for being here with me in this.

you all are so sweet. i did call my t and hope she calls back soon.

bad news
super triggered this afternoon when the whole mess with this bad doctor and office staff really hit home. but helped so much to read responses here. i have afternoon off, and it's been very rough. really really really triggered. Frowner Frowner Frowner im sad and anxious. i walked home (not too far) and tried to put my bike away, for good, until i heal. that was the plan anyhow. i tripped over bike, injured my leg. Frowner a neighbor saw me, helped me put bike away, drove me to urgent care, i got stitches. home again. realized i forgot sunscreen, now i'm sunburned.

shiesh im a mess.

good news
super nice neighbor, urgent care dr, nurse. whew. i almost got teary yet again as i got checked into urgent care, and they were so nice. let me be in quiet dark room, very respectful and explained everything before they did anything. i was exhausted, almost numb, but so glad they were kind. it helped a lot. i got call, i see the hand doc tomorrow morning. and i'm glad to get in so soon, but leary of dealing with another dr. my primary care doc wrote a script for physical therapy. and next week i'll see a physical therpist i already know who. he said he will evaluate me and see if he can help me figure out how to get more in sync with my body and heal well from everything. i feel relieved. yay Smiler

probably all tmi, yet slowly typing out is helping me slow down and rest w it all.

seriously wondering what is wrong with me lately. i seem to be very klutzy, and i always have been, but as much as lately. Roll Eyes

curling up on couch w/ more frozen veggies. going to lie still! Big Grin
((((Jane))))

It sucks when the doctors are the ones causing damage... It took me years of suffering with one of my doctors before I finally got the courage to say "this isn't ok with me anymore" and make some changes.

Today, actually, for the first time in my life, I went for a second opinion cause I didn't like the first opinion. It was kind of liberating!

You'll find the right doctor for your hand, and I'm glad you have one doctor already that is taking really good care of you!
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seriously wondering what is wrong with me lately. i seem to be very klutzy, and i always have been, but as much as lately.


I've noticed that when I am under a lot of stress, I am more prone to accidents. I think our mind and body is out of wack and our reaction time is slower, our coordination is off, etc. I really do believe there is a correlation to the stress and accidents. Its not just a coincidence.

Hope those frozen veggies are helping with the pain and swelling. ((((JD)))))
r2g - yay for the freedom to get other input!!! thanks for your kind words and encouragement

lg -
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I really do believe there is a correlation to the stress and accidents. Its not just a coincidence.

ah, thanks for pointing this out. i'm begining to really see this is likely very true for me. thanks for the good thoughts and encouragement

yaku - thanks so much.
My leg isn’t nearly as bad today as they thought it would be. yay for that.

Saw hand dr today. He casted my hand and forearm and put my other hand in a brace. Cant type out to explain. Going to get set up w software that will type what I speak in the next couple of days.

Very sad about cast, trying to take one day at a time. could be on for 8 weeks, but we will see.

Good dr. very nice. Explained things well, addressed my concerns well too. good evaluation and exam too.

Saw my eq t not too long after. Really good session that helped me feel more ok and settled. Easy light hearted session, but it helped so much. Saw my other t much later. She made an opening for me – she was concerned how triggered I was yesterday. She was helpful – faced some of the grief of cast and trauma of yesterday and the past.

I like how word capitalizes things for me. Sucks to only have one finger to use to type now. look forward to getting software running sometime next week.

Thanks for hanging in w me through this. im sad to be mostly m.i.a. and so limited for awhile

jd
(((Jane))) Right now, I'm thinking it would be nice if we had some sort of anonymous skype-type voice chatroom thing here, so we could still keep you company...you know, if it didn't trigger an anxiety attack for me, LOL. You will be missed. I hope the voice chat is up and running soon. Don't push yourself too hard. Give your finger adequate rest, as needed. Smiler I'm glad your Ts were able to be so helpful and your leg was better than anticipated. Take it easy, kid. <---not patronizing, it is just what came out, so I left it in.
Hi Jane,

I am really sorry to hear you are in so much pain with all these injuries. As far as your ortho Dr saying he didn't think you need an MRI, that is complete Bulls@#t. You definately need that 2nd opinion with the specialist. As to nothing can be done about carpal tunnel, that also is Bulls@#t. Carpal tunnel can be remedied with carpal tunnel surgery. The nerve that is being affected is in a sheath in your wrist. It gets twisted or injured and they open the sheath around that nerve and release it from the sheath. I have had that surgery on both of my wrist with excellant results, so it can be fixed and repaired, with PT following.
The 1st ortho dr. sounds like he thinks he is god and knows all. Always best to run from such Dr's. like that. As to the office manager, I would not have been as calm and kind as you were. The moment she grabbed me I would have reacted in psyhical way. She has no right to do that to you! You have every right to ask for a 2nd opinion and if they don't like it then one should remove themselves asap. I am glad you have the hand specialist and better care! Take good care of yourself and get well.
((((((((((((((JD))))))))))))
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(((Jane)))

I'm glad the doctor was nicer this time around Smiler Casts stink - I had one last year for 7 weeks and it was my dominant hand... made things challenging for a while! But, it also helped me appreciate the simple things that I so often took for granted (like applying deodorant!)

We'll be sending warm fuzzies while you are healing!!

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