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Hi Group,

I am a newbie who stumbled upon this group after doing a few Google searches and not really finding anything that related to my situation, as in, something I could simply read. So I searched for a forum where I could post my 'story,' in hopes that maybe someone has had a similar experience or can offer some advice?

Also... I do generally 'lurk' in forums where I'm new for a while to get a 'feel' for the forum before posting... but I just feel I have to get this off my chest. I hope this is the appropriate forum to bring this concern.

I recently moved back to my hometown. Before that, I had been seeing an *excellent* T where I was living and I saw her from 2008 through most of 2010. She moved away in early 2011, then I moved away in May this year.

I started seeing a new T here in my hometown in June or July. I told her that my initial diagnoses had been depression and social anxiety. Not long after starting therapy with her, she said I seemed to have self-confidence issues... I assumed we were going to work on those.

Not long after I moved away from the town I was living in, I met up with a guy I had initially met online. It seemed, at the time, promising. I excitedly told the new T about the date, and before I could go into any detail about it she interrupted and asked, "did you tell him you are overweight before meeting him?" I was really shocked with the question. In my life in general when I feel confronted in any way I tend to "default" to whatever people want to hear (is there anyone else here who's the same way?) It didn't seem like she'd believe it if I said he knew but I was unsure about telling a lie. I can't remember what I eventually mumbled as an answer.

The new T then told me about a fat friend of hers who, in her own words, is "completely round." She said this friend also did the online dating thing, and she suffered greatly because of rejection but eventually, after three years of heartache, she found a husband who loves her for who she is. The new T also told me she has a blonde, (I'm assuming) slim friend who also does the online dating thing and has a lot more luck than her fat friend... she said something like, "it seems a lot of guys prefer Barbie dolls."

In the end, the "promising" date did not lead to much else after all. I do not do the online dating thing often and at the moment have closed out accounts with online dating sites. The last time I met someone in person, whom I had met online first was back in 2003-- a good eight years ago. It's just not a big thing in my life, but I feel the T has made it out to be. She has brought it up during every single session since the one in which I told her about that guy I met, except for one. She tells me how hard it was for her fat friend (whom I'm really feeling sorry for, as she's an example in this context only because she's fat) and gives me an example of something that happened to her friend, and then asks me if I have gone through something similar. In one instance she said that at least being fat will help me "scare away the jerks." During our last session she said she felt weight was a deal-breaker for men, and if I agreed? I personally don't think so, because I've actually had a few guys say they like my body as it is, but again, I felt the need to just tell her what she wanted to hear although I felt terrible doing so.

I can't stress enough how it's the therapist, not me, who has brought up my weight in almost every single session since July. Seems the comments would actually be welcomed if I had been the one to bring it up. If I shared my date with her it was because with my old therapist, I had been working extensively on making myself available to guys. The old therapist was always excited for me when I'd come a step further in this area, and I guess I was expecting the same from the new T. If I had known she would focus on my weight so much for months on end I would've never shared this bit of info with her.

I also cannot stress how sick and tired I am of hearing about the T's fat friend, as she seems to have little to do with my life and situation and serves only as my T's point of reference.

At the moment, I am considering stopping therapy. I just don't know how to tell the T that she's "crossed the line" (as one friend suggested I do). I'm afraid she'll tell me I need to hear how overweight I am, for my own good. In fact it's left me completely discouraged, not only on my journey to losing weight, but also when it comes to relationships.

The therapist has, it seems, completely forgotten that we were going to work on self-confidence and other issues I had discussed we could work on toward the beginning of my therapy with her. These days, after I tell her about my life since the last session she inevitably asks if I'm still considering dating, and then reminds me I'm overweight as if I don't already know.

With my old T, I was the one to bring up my weight and she helped me work on it... I lead a healthier life now, with better food and exercise and have lost some weight-- not a lot, but a little. I don't know if the new T would even believe that. She seems to have no objective to her behavior. She literally just calls me fat, then leaves it at that. Questions about dating lead to me being told I'm fat then the T just sits and looks at me, and I just sit there and squirm in my chair and shrug my shoulders.

Just wondering if anyone has had similar experiences, if so, how did you handle it? Did you cancel therapy or bravely tell the T how you felt? Am I just being a big wimp here, making an issue out of nothing...? I could accept if someone said my fat a** needs to spend more time in the gym... whatever it is, I just want some honest opinions.

Thank you for reading my post....
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HI Caracolito

I am really sorry that your T is treating you like this.My very quick answer is that I would be out of there. I see red flags and this T has crossed the line. if you have the courage you can confront her and let her know - but I would just leave and find another T who can stick to her job and act with professionalism.

SD
First of all, welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting, Caracolito!! Welcome

Secondly, I am so glad you found us, because this is exactly the kind of forum (IMO) where you can ask questions like this. There often is no way for therapy patients to know for sure when something is "off", and we often go into therapy doubting ourselves anyway.

As for your t - OMG!!! Eeker Mad Eeker I emphatically agree with everyone else, this T is WAY WAY out of line in bringing this up!! And repeatedly, for months??? Sounds like SHE's the one with the problem!! I don't often give direct "advice" in posts here, but in this case, I would like to just let you know that if I were in your shoes, I would report all of this to her supervisor, and then find another T as soon as I could.

I am so sorry you had this experience...BUT I am really REALLY glad you had such a positive experience with your first T. Big Grin I hope you are able to find someone comparable to her.

Peace,
SG
caracolito,

Welcome and good to talk to you Smiler

OMG I am truly horrified at what your T is saying and CONTINUES to say. Her repeated harmful statements are a huge red fllag to me and no wonder feel so damaging. This is someone who is meant to be on your side, there to help and encourage you, not bring you down. And I agree, to me it very much sounds as if it is HER problem, certainly not yours. You do not pay your time and money either to hear about her friend ......

If it were me I would challenge her about this, 'do you know how it makes me feel when you say....?' Remind her of how many times she has done this, how many times that she has talked about her supposed fat friend etc, then ask her what her motives are and how she thinks that these statements are helping you and your therapy.

I am so glad that you can see how wrong and harmful these statements are, just because she repats them often doesn't mean they are true either

Good to have you with us, good luck with this one,

starfishy
Welcome to the forum! So glad you found us.

You got lots of good advice thus far....I just wanted to add, it definitely sounds like this is about HER and HER issues. And, if she is like this about this one thing (body weight/image) would she be like this with other things? If it were me, I'd cancel any future sessions and never go back, but I'm not as brave as you might be. She really deserves to be called out on what she is doing. It seems so wrong.
Welcome, caracolito. Glad to have you here.

As far as your T and her running commentary goes, like the others, I find it to be baffling and completely inappropriate. I'm heavy and it has never once come up in my therapy...nothing about my appearance ever has, except my very curly hair (which T wondered whether it was naturally so) and some nifty striped socks. If T commented about my appearance regularly in any way, it would make me so self-conscious, especially something sensitive like that. Also, being compared to her friend in that sort of a way, repeatedly...just weird. I would confront it if you feel able (I too struggle with confidence issues and confrontation is very difficult for me as a result) or at least find a therapist who is more sensitive and appropriate in her (or his) methods. I'm so sorry you've had this experience. Frowner
Hello Carcolito, welcome to the forum!!
You've certainly come to the right place - there are many very experienced people here who care and share a great deal!

What appalling behaviour, especially in a T!! Like the others, I see huge red flags - this lady appears to have some real issues and seems to be projecting them on to you!!! She's creating a problem instead of dealing with those you brought to therapy Eeker I'd get out of there pronto and if you don't feel able to do it face to face, write it all out and send it to her and start looking for another T!!

Take care of you and keep posting.
Morgs
Hi!

Just wanted to thank everyone who responded. I'm so glad I found this forum and got the courage to post my concern. I just didn't know if I was being overly sensitive about this or what... or if this is the "tough love" tactic from the T and I was supposed to be okay with it. I couldn't shake off the feeling I'm somewhat being bullied. At least, that's how it feels.

The T doesn't really have a superior she answers to, at least not that I know of. It's more of a private practice. Also... it most definitely does feel she's working through some issue here. It's like she can't believe her fat friend has a husband... she talks of her with such a sense of disbelief. In the universe I live in, people of all shapes, sizes, colors and creeds engage in relationships Smiler

@Blanket Girl: Thank you for posting these links... There is quite a bit of info offered as well as book suggestions that appear to be interesting reads.

@ Yakusoku: Yeah... I think that's how it should be with a T. My previous, really good T never mentioned my weight until I mentioned it first. Then, she hooked me up with an awesome nutritionist. Even then, the T approached eating right and exercising from the perspective that these would help with my depression and anxiety, not necessarily-- or exclusively-- because they would help me lose weight...
In general, thanks to all for the well wishes-- I will be parting with the T the next time I see her. I think just telling her it's not working out would be much easier than telling her how disparaging her comments are to me...

-C.
Blanket Girl, thank you for posting links to my blogs. I stopped in just to say that there is considerable research showing bias about weight among healthcare professionals and no evidence to suggest that mental health professionals are as a group are any different. Many of us who are fat carry those same biases internally and working our way through them is in itself a considerable journey. It takes courage to tell a therapist that of course there are issues that flow from being the object of so many toxic responses to our very bodies, but that our weight, like our height, is more a matter of genetics than an indicator of health or mental health.

I like to say that in a room with a slender therapist and a fat patient, it isn't valid to assume it is the patient who has the weight problem.

Caracolito, I hope you do bring up your feelings with your therapist. We therapists can only learn about our blind spots when we are helped to see them. :-)

Cheryl Fuller
The Fat Chronicles
Jung At Heart

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Originally posted by Blanket Girl:
Oh, yikes!

This would be a red flag to me. Her bringing up initially may just be a way to introduce the subject, in case you want to bring it up. But IMO she should have dropped it when you didn't pick up that ball.

The assumption that all overweight people have "issues" behind their weight and *should* deal with them is prevalent in society and -- sometimes -- in the therapy room.

I read a blog by a therapist who has written about her own experiences as an overweight therapist that I have found very enlightening.

Her blogs are:

http://www.jung-at-heart.com/
http://thefatchronicles.com/

At the very least, I would be honest with your T. about how her comments are making you feel. She may not be aware of how much she's focusing on this issue. (And that it may be HER issue, not yours!)

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