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Some of you may have seen my posts in the check in for how you're feeling thread about how T never showed up for my last appointment. I called her and she apologized profusely and offered to schedule me for the next day. At first I agreed to the appointment, but later that evening I realized I just couldn't bear to see her or her office again that soon. It was horrible to be left like that but it seems to have had something of a freezing effect on me. I thought of this poem by Emily Dickinson which describes it well.

After great pain a formal feeling comes--
The Nerves sit ceremonious, like Tombs;
The stiff Heart questions was it He, that bore,
And Yesterday, or Centuries before?

The Feet, mechanical, go round
A Wooden way
Of Ground, or Air, or Ought,
Regardless grown,
A Quartz contentment, like a stone.

This is the Hour of Lead
Remembered, if outlived,
As Freezing persons recollect the Snow--
First -- Chill-- then Stupor-- then the letting go--

--Emily Dickinson

I've decided to stay away until I thaw out a bit. I emailed T that night, rather coldly (haha) informing her that I was cancelling our appointment for the next day and that I didn't feel like rescheduling. I said I was sure I would start to miss her eventually and that when I did I would call to make an appointment, if that was still okay, but that for now I am taking a break.

T wrote back and apologized again. She also said a lot of nice things about how she understood if I wanted a break, she would miss working with me, she wished me all the best, etc. etc. She also signed her email "with warmest regards" which I thought might be code for love? Because isn't love the warmest regard you can have for somebody?

Anyway. The last couple days and nights have been a bit difficult. I've been crying at the drop of a hat, having trouble sleeping, frequently forgetting to eat (H has been helping to remind me about that, which is good cuz I'm pregnant.) But beneath it all is a feeling that I really will be okay ultimately.

I keep reading T's email over and seeing different things in it. I am touched by her kindness, but mostly notice the absence of any manipulative techniques to get me back. She doesn't try to imply that she's doubtful of my ability to get by without her (which I thought she might be) her expression of regret at my flight was of the mildest, while still managing to convey warmth towards me and a sense that I am welcome back if/when I choose to return.

This is all so amazing because I see so clearly that T does not need me. I don't have to offer up my emotional life to her as some kind of offering to make her feel good about herself, or connected, or whatever. She feels kindly towards me, but whether I come back next week, next month, next year, or never, she will be the same and she will be fine. It makes me very happy to think of her over there across the highway, living her life fully and not missing me more than a little. I don't feel any sense of obligation towards her and that is very freeing. When or whether I go back is all about what I want and need.

So much of my relationship with my own mom is built around my sense that she needs me. I think she needs me for companionship, emotional support, ego boosting, and image enhancing (she sees me as very much a part of her own image that she projects to the world). I love my mom, but sometimes this all makes me tired.

I was a little surprised that maternal transference with T happened as swiftly and decisively as it did, because I would have thought that someone as wrapped up in their mother's emotions and thoughts as I am would not have anything left over for a maternal attachment to a T. Yet the bond quickly formed and I realized she was meeting needs for me that my mother couldn't, or hadn't, and that I hadn't even been fully aware of.

I felt ambivalent about it, though. There was a sense that seeing a T at all was in some ways a betrayal of my mother, and the transference made me feel like I was "cheating" on my mom in a way. So I've begrudgingly tolerated the transference, but I haven't actively encouraged it or allowed it to be the creative force in my therapy that it probably could be.

Now I'm thinking what I may need to do when I return to therapy is to actively lean into the transference. To simply let T play mommy, and to learn what it is really like to be cared for by someone that doesn't need me back. I think if I can make a very conscious and deliberate choice to detach more from my own mother and attach more to T, I will have set myself in the direction of some real growth and improved functioning, because T does not need that attachment for her own well being and so should not be tempted to misuse it to keep me dependent, limited, and second guessing of myself.

I'm not entirely sure I'll be able to do this, though. I worry about my mom.

I wonder if a healthier mother daughter relationship would really look more like what I have with T? Would I really just be able to walk away (like I am temporarily doing from T) without a sense of guilt or anxiety for her well being?

I don't even know how this should work, if I'm becoming healthier or just more selfish. I think I at least have a glimmering of how to go forward, though, which is something.

Phew! I think this is my longest post ever. I'll be surprised if anyone made it through this far to the end. Thanks for your patience, if so. Smiler
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Me too.

Especially in regards to the warmth and liberating thoughts. It also seems like people do desire what they cannot have, and back away from what they perceive as "clingy". Although what I just said is probably not a huge revelation here, I'm contemplating both sides of all of it..Thanks!

I have to run off, but it was good to read this post!
Hey Mayo,

I know it was an accident. I'm not mad at T so forgiveness isn't even really in question. It's more like. . . if someone accidentally runs over your puppy. You don't blame them, especially if they didn't even see the stupid mutt, but you still have after effects.

I had had a difficult week and was in a pretty needy/regressed place when I showed up for my session. Those forty minutes of waiting and all the confusion and anxiety I went through during them was mildly traumatizing, unfortunately. I know it's not T's fault, but I still feel like I need a little space before I can work effectively with her again.

Does that make sense?
((((HIC))))

When I read the title of the thread, I thought you were going to be upset that she doesn't need you. And then I read your post and your spin on her not needing you is so positive. It did sound healthy. That was so great that you could make the distinction between the relationship with your mother and the relationshipt with your T. That's what it's supposed to be all about.

My Mom sounds the same as yours. She can really suck me up. Sometimes I'm so amazed at how entitled she seems to feel, almost that she owns me, my mind, my thoughts. That we have to be on the same page about everything. How entitled she feels to tell me the details of her life. I would never presume that kind of intimacy with my girls. Nor would I want them to be a friend for me in that way but she can't seem to make the distinction.

Anyway, so none of it sounds bad. It sounds like you have a nice relationship with your T. The break was friendly. You can go back anytime. It's all good.

HUGS,

Liese
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That was so great that you could make the distinction between the relationship with your mother and the relationshipt with your T. That's what it's supposed to be all about.


Yes, it has been a powerful contrast and realization. With my mother, if she hurts me, it's like it doesn't matter. I feel I somehow still owe her the same level of connection and intimacy we've always maintained (or at least a good imitation of it), even if it becomes painful for me. With T, it's so different. She hurt me (inadvertently, but still) and I feel like it's totally okay for me to withdraw if I need to. Even though my first reaction was to be like, "Oh well, it doesn't matter, it was an accident, I'll go see her tomorrow," I realized that this was acting as I would with my mother, making it about T's supposed needs and wants, which was totally unnecessary because T doesn't need me. This is truly a relationship where I can be safe and take care of my feelings without having to worry. In a way, I'm glad we had the occasion for this little rupture, because otherwise I might not have had the opportunity to make this realization on so visceral a level.

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Anyway, so none of it sounds bad. It sounds like you have a nice relationship with your T. The break was friendly. You can go back anytime. It's all good.


Smiler Yep, I think it is all good. My mind still freezes over at the thought of going back to her office and seeing her again, but overall my thoughts remain quite positive and I'm pretty sure this feeling will wear off, and when it does, T will be ready to welcome me back.

Also, I haven't had a meltdown since this morning and I've been remembering to eat regularly. This may prove to be a storm in a teacup.

Thanks Liese, Mayo, number9, muff, and BLT for reading and for the friendly support! Smiler
HIC,

Sometimes a relationship (even a T one) is already in a spot to need a break and one thing happens and that's the (boiling) point where you make a decision for a break, a cut, etc. I don't think you are running.

I, like Liese, read this very positively.

I'm glad your H is keeping an eye on you (and baby). My appetite goes away completely, light a switch, when something happens, similar to what you feel there.

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Would I really just be able to walk away (like I am temporarily doing from T) without a sense of guilt or anxiety for her well being?


I so identified with the mother part of your post....I could have quoted the whole section to discuss! But, I wanted to say, with a break from T, for however long, could be really good for you to think about all of the things you brought up. For me, I have a huge sense of anxiety and guilt when I take a "break" from talking to my mom (because apparently it is my job to call her to tell her what is going on with me/kids (although now there's Facebook)). Finding the balance between the anxiety I have when I do talk to her, and the anxiety I have from not talking to her, well, now I just haven't figured that out yet.

Thinking of you.
Well HIC
I do have to agree with muff that maybe you are avoiding your anger. By staying away until you can effectively stuff it back down. However it took me a very long time To even acknowledge my anger towards my t and even then, it wasn't easy. Actually it still often feels like outright war.

So just some things to keep in mind. But your insights re your mom were great. Wouldn't it be great Ti be free?
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Finding the balance between the anxiety I have when I do talk to her, and the anxiety I have from not talking to her, well, now I just haven't figured that out yet.


Ninn, I could have written this! I just can't seem to relax unless I know how my mother is doing and what she's thinking about me, but when I do check in she almost invariably says or does something to upset me. Frowner I really need to set some boundaries here but haven't figured out the way to it yet either. I think maybe though, along the lines of learning from this break with T, that I could start telling myself she probably doesn't need me quite as much as I've always thought she does? It could be my sense of my mother's neediness is a bit overblown due to my own desire to be a saviour figure, which is now wearing thin. Hmm. . .

Liese, Mayo, Muff, and anyone else who thinks my current break from T is me running from suppressed rage. . . I don't know. I don't really feel angry, just this sort of iciness and the need to avoid her for the time being. Would it be healthier to make myself go talk to her anyway, you think? If so, why?
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Idk what that is about (above)

Hic- I am told that things do not have to be exclusively black or white... meaning - yes I think you should explore this with your T, but do it when you are ready. Ask yourself- is icing the same as numbing? Which can be an avoidance strategy? Personally, I tend to numb when feelings become overwhelming- which blocks me from dealing with them.

A sudden break from T (this is also making me look at my own situation)usually- for me- means avoidance. In my case, I am consciously making that decision. Fully aware of the reasons and the ramifications.

Talk to your T when you are ready. And don't forget to be gentle on yourself.

Just wanted to return to this thread to update that my self imposed exile from T is over. It turned out to not be a very long break after all-- about two and a half weeks from the time I last actually saw her.

I decided to go back because my tension, anxiety, and stresses were mounting and I realized that in leaving T I was cutting myself off from my most effective means of coping and emotional support, and that this is probably not a good time in my life to be doing that. I'm not crazy about the level of dependency I have on her, but at the same time it's much healthier than some of my other relationships and life strategies. As I was considering these things, my frozen feelings towards her began to thaw, and I emailed asking for her earliest next available appointment slot (normally I hold out for an evening appointment so I can leave my baby with H and not have to hire a sitter, but she never has those available on short notice as they fill up fast). Turns out she was able to see me the next day at ten, so I hired a sitter and prepared to go. That was yesterday.

Things started out badly because T was half an hour late! I was feeling frustrated/despairing watching the minutes of my session tick by, because I knew I'd have to leave a little before the end of the hour regardless because I had promised the sitter. Of course I had plenty of other sad things to think over as well (I mean, duh, something drove me back to therapy) plus reliving the hopeless wait was triggering, so by the time I got to see T I was in not so great a condition.

I sat in the corner of the couch, hugging a pillow, eyes closed, shaking a little and crying a little, somewhat dissociated. I don't think I've ever been quite like that in session before. T of course apologized for being late, and kept gently asking questions to try and get me to talk. I was fairly unresponsive until she said,

"It wouldn't be surprising if you were angry at me, after last week and especially me being late again today."

"It wasn't that. It's not that you missed an appointment. If it had happened on a Monday or Tuesday it wouldn't have mattered," I heard myself saying.

There was a puzzled sounding silence and then T asked, "Why was it not that I missed the appointment? Why would it not have mattered if it had been on a Monday or Tuesday."

"Because. Then it just would have been a scheduling mistake. But the whole week passed and you didn't see me and you didn't even notice the difference. I had not thought I was as forgettable as all that."

So. That's what the trouble was. I do not think I had realized it so clearly until I had to explain it to her. She was nice about it. She said, "You are not forgettable, HIC. You are not at *all* forgettable. When I'm in the flow of the work week, seeing clients back to back, I forget what *day* it is. But *you* are not forgettable."

I guess I'm pathetic enough that this made me feel better, lol. I told her that she was not the only reason I was in the state I was in, that I had many problems and she was only one of them, so she laughed and asked if we could talk about some of my other problems. I spent most of the rest of the session (such as it was) venting, which I guess felt good. At one point we did touch on the "break" and the email she sent. I told her I had not intended to take a very long break, I just had needed some space in which to recover my wounded sense of dignity. She said she had thought that was the case, but had tried to write her email in such a way as to cover either scenario.

"It was a nice email." I replied, "I appreciated it."

"It was all true. I was thinking when I was writing it about how you can't really leave people. I mean, you can, but not without dire consequences. Leaving your family (she meant my FOO with whom things are complicated, but intense) would mean strong psychological consequences. Leaving your H would bring consequences and complications of many kinds. But you can leave here and there are no consequences. I wanted you to feel that. That you are welcome here if ever you want or need to come back, but that if you want to leave or stay away, you are blessed. You are blessed either way."

T does not normally speak in quite that language, so this talk of doling out blessings made her seem a bit like a fairy god mother to my imagination. I also thought that it was really cool, given the thread I had started here, that the message I took from her email, and the connections I made, were exactly what she meant and had intentionally endeavored to convey.

When I got up to leave she told me she wasn't going to charge me for the session since it had been cut short. I was pleasantly surprised at this and thanked her, but didn't argue. Honestly I was a bit relieved, because I had been a bit dispirited thinking about what was from my point of view a double in net expenditure (my copay plus babysitting money) for half the return (a 25 minute session).

Anyway. So I think things are going well. I know T is quite a bit flaky with her scheduling and punctuality. I hope this shouldn't be a bigger red flag to me than it is. It does annoy me (obviously) but otherwise I think she's great. . .

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