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This is the day I decided to visit T's church.

I am still feeling mildly disoriented and thought I would come write things out here. Respond if you will. I don't have any real questions, just felt the impulse to write.

She goes to a church that is unique in our community-- the pretty Episcopal church in the historic downtown building with the trendy, progressive priest. I've been doing some spiritual searching and exploring in different churches for a couple years now (still trying to discover what it is I believe and where exactly I might belong).

Anyway, this church is one of several that's been on my list of places I should check out or at least visit, at least once. I was fully planning on doing this eventually before I knew T went there, and when I explained this she pretty much encouraged me to go for it. She speaks very highly of her church. I still thought it would be awkward to see her there so avoided it in spite of the "permission".

Well, I had more or less put it out of my head, but writing on AV's thread recently about this re awoke the impulse and so the other day I visited the church's website. Well, during the summer they have a Wednesdsay morning "Holy Eucharist and Healing Service."

I don't know what a Healing Service is, but I thought this was perfect because T was bound to be safely in her office on a Wednesday morning, so I could go incognito. Cool

H was home for the day so I left the older two with him this morning and took the baby with me.

I felt this excited anticipatory feeling as I headed out the door that I often feel when trying out a new place of worship. I mean, you just never know what you might find. But as I got closer to my destination, within a couple blocks, that feeling started to turn into one of uneasiness and dread. I started thinking about T, even though I told myself this had nothing to do with her, she wouldn't be there, I was not going there just because she did, and etc.

One block away and the voices in my head are like, "You don't belong here, HIC." I felt I was intruding where I didn't qualify to be. Idk, hard to explain.

I pulled into the parking lot and my heart almost stopped when I thought I saw T's car. I ended up parking all crookedly trying to see the license plate (T's car is easily identifiable by the cheesy personalized license plate slogan). Phew. Not T. Then I noticed I was the only person parked crookedly in a parking lot about a third filled with nicely kept vehicles all primly spaced straight between the lines. I wondered if there was something about Episcopals that they all park this way? lol.

Well, as I walked around the back and side of the building to get to the front door I was all like, "Wow, this is where T comes to pray." And I felt sort of eerie, uneasy? I kept walking and took note of the old brick, wrought iron, the courtyards, antique plaques, the pristine landscaping. I registered that it was very lovely and very peaceful, a place with much atmosphere. But somehow I didn't *feel* the atmosphere as anything other than a potential latent in the place. Instead I just felt that it was friggin' *expensive*.

Okay, so I'm finally at the door and I take a deep breath and. . . it's locked. Yes, I'm a few minutes late. But I've never been to a church that's locked it's doors before during services?? Have any of you? Is this something that is done?

Well, I'm hit by a sense of rejection, disappointed, snubbed-ness, a huge wave of relief, and a dizzying freedom. There is a very unique quality to the felt experience of intending to visit a place for so long and then finding oneself locked out!

Of course, on the way home I'm telling myself all kinds of things like, "I'm going to take this as a sign. I'm never going back there again. 'The Episcopal Church Welcomes You' (that is their slogan, catchy, right?) Ha! T does not know me or know the first thing about me, really. (She has said I'd make a good Episcopalian, lol). This is so not the place for me, blah, blah, blah."

Mmm, but now that I'm home and replaying the scene two things strike me: 1) maybe the service had actually been cancelled because it was awfully quiet around there (but what about all those cars in the parking lot?). 2) I can't absolutely swear that I fully tried both doors. I mean, I think I did but I can't say for sure. I just don't remember.

Maybe the door was open all along and I self generated the experience of being locked out? I don't *think* so, but the fact that I can't be certain is more than a bit discomfiting.

Perhaps I should simply think about something else and stay away from Episcopal churches in future. Dang, I don't know why I feel so "off".

ttyl,
me
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Update:

Shortly after typing this I re-read it and was struck anew by the dream likeness of the experience. I felt (and still feel) that the lines between subjective experience and external happenings were blurry and that everything was symbolically weighted the way it might be in a dream. I wondered about interpreting a waking event the same way one interprets a dream. Can you do that? And if so, what does it say about "reality"?

I had this image of sand flowing through my fingers.

I called a friend to talk about these things. While I was talking to her there was a beep on the other line. It was T. (I had called her yesterday and left a message asking about scheduling another appointment this week. I was disappointed that she hadn't called back and so had called again early this afternoon in case she hadn't gotten the message. )

T was very solicitous sounding on the phone. She told me I hadn't left a message yesterday, or rather that there was no message. She had seen my call but didn't know if it was a "real call or a butt call" because I hadn't left a message.

I told her that perhaps I had spoken before the beep, or after disconnection, or something. She said there were a couple seconds of silence and then nothing.

My (tentative) conclusion from these parallell events (the message that wasn't and the locked church door)?

I self generate experiences of rejection.

Hmm.

I self generate experiences of rejection.

This feels like a genuine insight, whatever the case with what actually happened with the church door and T's voicemail. I wonder why a person would do this, why I might do this.

Fear of what might be behind the church door? Fear of greater self knowledge (which can only come through relationship) and intimacy? Fear (on a spiritual level) of healing and of grace? In fact, I now recollect this was supposed to be a "healing service". Perhaps I subconsciously rebelled against this.
HIC,
Different people react different ways to personal contact and dual relationships with their T. I found AV's thread fascinating because he is so obviously comfortable with it. Despite my deep and agonizing longing at times to have a relationship outside the therapeutic one with my T (different types of desires on different days, it runs the gamut from romantic to friend to parent), the truth is that anything outside of therapy scares the s$%^ out of me. Because of my incest background, my Ts very clear, very firm boundaries have been essential.

Those feelings of dread you described? and all the discomfort? It sounded very familiar to me when I truly think about seeing my T outside of therapy. I was waiting once in the parking lot because I was picking someone else up and my T came out and got into his car which was parked next to mine (small parking lot AND he was driving another vehicle that day). He waved and said hi but I was amazed at the shame and dread which came over me. Another time he came out with a trash can and I dove for the floor of my car.

I think the frame is VERY important to my sense of safety and seeing my T only in his office is part of that. I would be a nervous wreck attending the same church. Ironically enough, when I was wrestling with starting to see BN on an individual basis, I went to see another therapist for around five sessions and we already attended the same church. I wasn't all that attached so I was fine, but I still steered very clear. It is unnerving for me to run into someone socially who knows me so intimately, while I know so little about them. I expect that in the therapy space, but out in public I feel pretty unsettled. So in a weird way everything you said made sense to me.

Don't know much about Episcoplians, so not much help there. Smiler

AG
Hi AG,

Thanks for commenting and relating. I'm glad I made some sense, lol, felt I was in a bit of a fog when I wrote my posts.

Yeah, I can definitely see not wanting to relate with T socially and how that might have connected to the feeling of dread. I am wondering what further is behind that feeling. I'm sensing, for me, it's less about the experience of vulnerability and exposure that could result from a possible meeting with T and more coming from a kind of toxic shame that I am not normally conscious of. Like, I feel that I shouldn't even be "allowed" to exist in the same space as T without her being paid to tolerate my existence. Frowner

This seems to operate even if I'm not in the same space at the same time. I would not have anticipated such a very strong reaction as I approached her church. I was nearly 100% certain she wouldn't be there, so the fear of seeing her shouldn't have been that strong? Idk.

I know she wouldn't want me to feel this way. I don't think I'll be able to talk with her about it, but it's nice to be able to think it through here. Smiler

I'm also wondering about this matter of me possibly experiencing open doors as locked as well as the confusion over whether or not I left a message with T. Why would I be sabotaging myself in that way? (If indeed that is what even happened)? And how could I know if I'm even doing that or not? Perhaps there are no answers to those questions. Brick wall

There is also the thought that I am becoming just a bit morbid and need to snap out of it.

Anyway, thanks for reading. Smiler

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