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This is really long but I`ve been quiet this week because I`ve been processing so much and I wanted to share it with people who understand. So if you want to hear a lot of details about my session read on.

My week has been difficult generally because my husband is out of town for work and I'm alone with my 3 children. I've been worried about my eldest daughter for a variety of reasons relating to food intake, exercise, insomnia etc. My doctor (MD) suggested that I have her assessed for mood disorders and ADHD (related to school issues). During monday's session I talked to my T about it and realized how responsible I feel for my daughter's problems.

Eventually my T asked me how I was feeling about our conversation last week about my appearance during childhood and how my family treated me. I told him I was sad and he kept asking questions I couldn't answer. By the end of the session I was so upset. I hate when I can't talk. I feel alone and so damaged. When I left I called him from my car and he answered the phone and when I started talking we got disconnected and I thought he hung up. Over the next 24 hours I just spun out and left 3 voice mails and sent an email. I told him it wasn`t working I was cancelling my session on Wednesday, it hurt too much and was too difficult. When he called back he explained the line was dead and we talked about how I felt like I was stuck and not improving. He told me I was stuck for the moment and things had changed in the past and would again.

Last night I went to my sesssion and it was such a weird conversation. My T talked a lot because I wouldn`t talk. We talked a lot about intense feelings. I always feel like intensity is overwhelming and out of control and I try to avoid it. He told me some people actually choose intense situations. He told me he thinks that since my emotional systems was always activated so I try and avoid intensity.

Then we talked about the connection between us. He asked me if I felt like he withdrew from me when I felt overwhelmed and intensity. I couldn`t answer but I asked him why he asked. He told me that he thinks that I put up a wall and try and protect myself when I feel overwhelmed and he thinks that I would feel less connected or at least less positive connection with him. He pointed out that I start to feel like he doesn`t like me and he hung up on me, or that he is disgusted by me when that happens.

Even though he really knows me I felt so hopeless, like we know what the problem is but I can`t fix it. He told me I had to accept where I was and have some sympathy for myself before I could find any room to do something different. I find that so hard. It seems like I keep doing the same thing, getting stuck, overreacting, being too needy, and I don`t get better. He told me that this is what happens when I feel that way I don`t realize he is trying to empathisize and connect with me and I feel alone. I said I knew he was trying and he said you know it intellectually not experientially.

It might have been the most intense session I`ve had in three years of therapy. I also feel like I didn`t understand what he was saying at so many points and that I can`t remember what I did understand. I`m so grateful that I have a recording of the session so I can listen to it again. I was so tired after the session I went home and slept really well.

This morning I called my T to tell him what I wrote in the Say Anything thread. I admitted that I feel like I am used to being alone with my feelings and pain and now sometimes I`m not so it scares me when we have a session and I can`t talk like Monday. I also admitted that I can`t imagine not talking to him anymore and that freaks me out because if he can`t understand me or gets tired of trying then what happens (or retires). He said he understood I was stuck between two states, being alone and talking to him and sharing myself and it was moving slowly. I said what if I get used to talking to you and then I`m stuck like that. He said that it didn`t work that way and the need would change over time. When I asked how he knew that he said he`s seen it happen with his older children (in their 20s) who don`t need him the same way they used to and his clients. I said your children are not like your clients. He said no but it works in a similar way.

He said I`ll see you Monday and I said yes. Afterwards I realized I felt like he didn`t understand me. I don`t think he realizes how attached I am and how much he means me. Then I realized I think he doesn`t understand because he doesn`t respond the way I expect because he isn`t upset or angry or quitting on me. I think on Monday I`m going to try and talk about it more again and watch his reaction. I hope I can lean into the intensity.
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I don`t think he realizes how attached I am and how much he means me. Then I realized I think he doesn`t understand because he doesn`t respond the way I expect because he isn`t upset or angry or quitting on me. I think on Monday I`m going to try and talk about it more again and watch his reaction. I hope I can lean into the intensity.


Hi Incognito,

The above really struck me, as I know I have the same thoughts, and while I've tried to address them with my T. One day she acknowledged that I really struggled while she was out of town, and that struggle was ok, because she's become a lifeline of sorts for me. Hearing her say that totally freaked me out (I always wonder how Ts can speak of themselves in that detached-ish way without having an ego party?)

Whenever she tries to acknowledge my attachment, and how important she is to me, I panic, change the subject, and refuse to hear anymore. She's tried a few times, and I seriously think my ears turn off while she's talking, cause I don't hold onto a thing those sessions.

I'm sorry things are so intense right now, and with your H being out of town, it doesn't make things any easier. Good for you, though, for calling your T, and talking to him! I am very afraid to call my T, even though I have permission to do so any time, and I always admire those who are able to call anytime.

(((incognito)))
Incognito,

All I can say is so beautiful. I know it's hard and I know it hurts but I sense that you have moved into a new place with your T where you "almost" trust him. The attachment shit is hard and scary but he sounds like he really does understand though it doesn't sound like it would hurt at all to talk about it and get the reassurance that you need and want.

That was such an amazing insight, where you saw that you don't think he understands because he doesn't respond the way I expect because he isn't upset or angry or quitting on you. It sounds like you just worked through some transference and you can hopefully distinguish between the people in the past who did quit on you and your T, who is not quitting on you.

Incognito, even though you feel stuck, IMHO you are making progress. I get afraid too that my T will give up on me if I don't progress fast enough, etc. etc. I've started to relax and say to myself, "this is where I am and I have to accept this." It does feel a lot better to do that even though it's always been hard for me to accept me and not to want to jump out of my skin at any given moment.

I just see progress, progress, progress there, Incognito. So glad you went to your appointment.

HUGS,

Liese
Hi Icognito, I don't think we've met so hi
The last two bits of your post resonated with me, big time. Like Liese says this is progress even though it probably doesn't feel much like it at the moment - I am just getting to the same stage of kind of trusting my T but half expecting them to 'run for the hills' like folks have done before. It's a confusing place to be in but this is progress you have made Smiler
Hi incognito... I know you want to give up and yes therapy is really hard. I want to give up too at times. Today I was so sad in session. I just wanted to cry. I had an awful morning and I was angry and I think I hurt my T. Then I felt bad about it. I think sometimes he makes me angry because he seems so detached and I want more emotion from him.

I do understand how that disconnect can make you want to run away from therapy but you have really been doing so well lately and many of us here can see your progress. I know it feels like slogging through quicksand at times but we both know that we have good Ts and we need to keep at this.

I'm sorry you had a difficult session today.

TN

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