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Happy New Year to everyone! I have been struggling lately but have not been posting because I don't want to be a drain upon the members here, but I am really struggling. I am hurting so much from this attachment issue regarding therapy.

Let me say, I believe the Therapist I see is effective and is what I need, not necessarily what I want. I am posting this to ask for feedback as to what I can do in regards to the transference, etc. that seems to be causing me a great deal of discomfort.

As many know, the Therapist I see does not allow outside contact. I have come to terms with this, but I am in so much emotional pain mid-way through the week that I can barely function. I need to find a way to lessen the pain so that I am not completely incapacitated by it.

He has been giving me appointment cards weekly so I know he is not going to replace me during the week. My latest request is for him to write something down saying I won't be replaced, etc. I don't know if he will do this, or not. I requested this via letter this week, so I won't know his answer until Wednesday.

There have been a couple of things which have happened that has me questioning the sincerity and realness of the relationship. The day after Christmas I was at Starbucks in the evening and who should walk in? You guessed it, the Therapist. I saw him and looked down at what I was reading. I then looked back up and he was out of sight. He walked to where I could not see him. This hurt me so deeply, I left and broke down in my car. He doesn't even want to see me in public. He could have at least acknowledged me with a gentle smile.

I saw him Wednesday and it took me the whole session to bring it up. I finally asked him about it and he stated he didn't know I saw him. I told him I left because I felt he didn't want me as he didn't even acknowledge me. He stated he behaved poorly and apologized. He asked me how I would like our greetings to be if we ever saw each other in public. I said maybe just a quiet acknowledgement. I thought I would feel better after he apologized, but I am extremely disappointed. For as long as he has been a Therapist, surely he has encountered other clients. He must know it is not beneficial to ignore someone, especially someone with attachment issues.

The second issue is he did something, innocently, in therapy. He was sitting in his chair and started flexing his hand open and shut. I couldn't even speak and I couldn't even broach the subject with him until this past week. I explained a certain person did this when I lived in a foster care home and when they did this, I was getting ready to get knocked out. I asked him if he was getting frustrated with me, he said no. He said he had an injury to his arm and sometimes flexing his hand relieves the discomfort.

I don't know how to talk to him about these things because I feel as if I am accusing him when I bring these incidents to discuss. I even sent him a letter apologizing for seeing him the way I do (negative transference). I feel bad because I see him in such a altered way, and it is not fair to him as a human being.

He does not allow outside contact, and within this framework, I have begun to think if he only wants me for 50 minutes a week, and no other time, then he truly doesn't want me. When I come into session, I feel as if he doesn't want me, he doesn't really want to hear from me. If he wanted me, he would want me all the time and not just 50 minutes a week.

I asked him this week how I could address certain things without involving him in the process. I need to separate him from the process. He looked puzzled. I told him if my reactions were not about him, then I needed to separate him from the feelings. How to talk about all that was being stirred up without including him.

He encouraged me to tell him when these things come up. I don't know if he fully understands where I am coming from. I am being as honest and sincere as I can be. I have vowed when I go in I will not shut down and when I feel myself doing this, I speak up. I have stopped fighting him and have tried to be more cooperative in this therapy venture.

Realizing he will never be anything to me I wish he could be. I wish he could be my father and yet, I know it will never be. I look into this vast chasm and see nothing where something should have been. Then I look for something to place where the nothing is. I have just begun to understand the depth and severity of what I have endured as a child because I have been so shut down.

I have an intense longing to be wanted by a mom or a dad. It shall never be. Even as I type this, I logically get this but emotionally, I can not go there.

I need words of wisdom, comfort and perhaps a different way to see the therapeutic relationship so I am not tripping so much along the way. This is very difficult and I am mustering up the strength to stay and not run, which is a natural response for me.

I have been absent on the boards but I have been hurting so much. Thank you for listening.

T.
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((((TAS))))

Ouch this is painful stuff!!! I'm so sorry Frowner you are so bravely tackling some of the most difficult aspects of healing, really feeling that pain.

FWIW I can't even imagine seeing my T in public how deeply it would impact me. Sending big hugs that you experienced that, and especially to have on top of it him not being reactive Frowner I'm so proud of you for talking to him about it!

Words of wisdom are eluding me at the moment... but you really are onto something in trying to separate the past and present. I believe gently allowing yourself to grieve the past is a huge step in this and takes time and patience. We are here for you in that, I'm glad you reached out to let us know how you're doing.

I'm sorry it hurts so much right now Frowner

Hug two
(((TAS))) the thing that strikes me over and over again is how in spite of these very strong feelings, you keep going back. you seem to understand that you need to keep going back in order to heal. You trust your T that he knows what he's doing, but there is this conflict in you that you don't understand, and you are trying so hard to resolve it on a cognitive level. unfortunately i don't think it's something that you (or I!) will ever understand on a cognitive level because it's more on a feeling level that this stuff has it's hold. nevertheless, your constant questioning i think is very healthy.

i could be totally off base, but even though i understand your desire to separate your T from the feelings (because you "know" the feelings are "historic" and have nothing to do with your T, or anybody else in your life), i do think that the work that is begging to be done is in resolving those feelings that come up with your T rather that in trying to remove your T from those feelings. this is all well and good for me to say this to you, since i struggle with the very same stuff, but i really do think that even though the feelings hurt like a son-of-a-bitch and you know they are not rational, they are still real. feelings don't have to be rational to be real. they still affect your everyday life on some level. therapy just happens to magnify them to a painful and unescapable level. and that's what makes therapy so wonderful (i say that tongue in cheek) ... that you can experience those feelings in the present (all the while knowing they are irrational, but accepting that feelings can be that way), and deal with them with a safe person that you know you can trust, and finally put them to rest. i think if you cognitively try to sever the ties of T from those feelings, you will succesfully sever the chance for healing and recovering from those feelings. i think that this is why therapy can be so incredible valuable. you simply don't have the chance to do this anywhere else in life. this is why the theraputic relationship can be so powerful and life-changing. it can and DOES hurt like an SOB, but this is our chance to release the feelings that have been pent up for years. decades. and finally be free of them in our understanding of them.

i hope this all makes sense. i think the level of trust you have with your T (and you deserve alot of credit for that!) will help you immensely in your healing. these are all just my perceptions, i don't necessarily know what i'm talking about ... this is just my slant. i certainly have a long way to go yet in my own therapy, so don't take what i say as gospel.

lastly, i sometimes think of what would "happen" if i saw T in "the wild". i know i would do exactly what you did, to avoid eye contact and delve into what it was i was doing, all the while wondering what his perception was, what he was doing while i was busy avoiding. i am so glad that you brought it up in therapy, and i am so glad that he admitted his folly. good on you for questioning and challenging his unhealthy reaction. he'll think twice the next time something similar happens.

TAS, it sounds to me like you're doing really well in spite of all the painful and confusing feelings. i'm sorry for them, but i also think dealing with them in therapy, and not separating from them, is the key to your feeling better in the long run.

good luck, (((TAS))) you give me hope Smiler
((((TAS))))

I have never run into my T in public though he warned me that he would never say hello first if it did happen. That's because he couldn't be sure if I would want him to say hello. I told him I'd be upset if he didn't. I totally understand why you were so thrown by his behavior. Therapy is such a strange relationship. I shake my head over it every day still and don't think I'll ever get over the peculiarities of it.

Hey TAS, good to hear from you but I am so sorry you are so miserable. It sounds like you are still plugging away though and trying to make your life better in the long run. You're doing great by sticking with it and not running away. I am always amazed at what a fighter you are and I mean that in a good way. You inspire me.

As far as running into your T in public, those meetings can be really awkward, as I know from first hand experience. I have run into my T twice in the same place. As much as I like my T, I don't like running into her about town. She doesn't seem real outside of the therapy room and I feel like I don't really know her, which I guess I don't, out in the real world.

It sounds like you are doing a really good job and I think you need to be kinder and more patient with yourself. You have had a tough go of it. Sorry again you feel so awful. I'm glad you are back posting. Keep fighting.
AH: Thank you for the hugs. Separating past from present...I did not realize two things could be so closely intertwined. At times, I am barely hanging on. If I face in the direction I want to go and seemingly fail, at least I will have 'failed forward.' Thank you. Your kindness means a lot!

CD: Thank you Smiler I keep going back because honestly, I need the firmness and the boundaries. Mind you, it's not something I would 'choose' for myself; but I sought help because I needed not what I already had, but something different to cause change.

Thank you for your kind words. I hope you are well and wherever you are, staying warm!

Liese: You are right, therapy is such a strange relationship. I don't quite understand it, either.

All the best to you in the new year!

Becca: Thank you! I am plugging away as I have a lot on the line. This is the most difficult thing I have ever done. Trusting another to not take advantage and misuse my trust for their gain...I battle this every time I step into his office.

It's interesting...we wonder how they are outside of the office but yet, when we encounter them, we freeze or want to get away.

All the best to each of you. Thank you for taking time to offer comfort and support.

T.
TAS, Just want to say that I understand. I'm in the same place. PAIN, PAIN, PAIN within the therapy relationship and attachment. Lately, for me it has turned into anger and frequent ruptures. I haven't found anything that helps other than telling myself to keep pushing through it. It has got to be better on the other side.

Rebuilding ME
(((Tas)))This does sound so painful. My experience is that T relationships are painful too. My new T says it's a traumatic attachment and that's why it's like that. But get this now she is running a group I am in. She just took over and everyone else in there is her client too and no matter how hard I try I feel so damn jealous when she gives them attention. Particularly this one woman who sits with her head down the whole time and acts all angry to be there and my T puts her arms around her shoulders and asks to talk to her on break etc. Ugh the jealousy is intense. I haven't brought it up yet but I feel like quitting the group. Don't mean to go on with my own junk here but just letting you know I do get it.

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