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I wonder if I thought I was bad or evil for experiencing anger. Hmmm...I suppose this is something I could bring to therapy. Studying human emotions has made me think about the way I was taught to handle or not handle feelings. In my family I don't think we were taught to identify emotions and express them. My primary caregiver told me and my siblings that anger was evil and that we needed to pray it away or suppress it. Now, I will say doing something other than injuring self or others is more appropriate socially where I come from.
Just wondering if any of you were taught a similar thing.
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Athenacus,

Well I wasn't taught that anger was evil, but I was conditioned to not feel emotions. Growing up in an alcoholic home, usually no one remembered what awful things had happened b/c of black out drinking. So if I was upset or sad or quiet or whatever (anything besides my "normal" self) then I was scolded for having a bad attitude.
So eventually I found it easier to just pretend like nothing happened and stuff my feelings down and away. I spent so much time doing that, that now I have an incredibly hard time expressing emotions. I feel great shame in crying and I have a really hard time telling someone if they have done something that hurt me. I usually just pretend nothing happened....which doesn't help my self-destructive behavior.
I would say yes, I think that if you were taught that anger was evil and you need to pray it away that it could definatley have caused you to feel like you were bad or evil for feeling angry. It is essentially the same exact thing that happened to me, but just in a different way.
Ok I’m back with a tome on this topic. Very interesting question Athenacus and on a topic dear to my heart!

I think in our society/western culture, there’s a real moratorium on anger per se – it might not be overtly regarded as ‘evil’ but it may as well be – there’s a general consensus that anger is somehow ‘bad’, even pathological – something to be gotten rid of, avoided, controlled, ‘managed’, transmuted, transformed. It’s not ok in our society to express anger, it is neither acceptable nor accepted. That doesn’t just apply to overt expressions of uncontrolled anger either (like violence for instance, or abusive language).

So given that we have a history of rejecting and condemning anger, it’s not surprising that we learn it’s at best, not really ok. Oh you get the lip service, it’s ok to FEEL anger, but it’s not ok to EXPRESS it, not in its raw direct form. So immediately a conflict and a catch 22 – how can you feel an emotion without the option of expressing it? And how often even in the feeling of it aren’t we ‘punished’ for it? A frown, a sigh, a critical word automatically incurs a negative response. Anger is not ever seen as ok or good or praised or encouraged that’s for sure. And only rarely understood and validated.

And as children we’re in the insidious position of inevitably experiencing anger as a perfectly normal and natural human response but being responded to and treated as if we’re doing something morally and socially terribly wrong and bad. As if it’s not normal, not human, not natural. Well quite a lot of us, maybe some of us had emotionally mature parents who were good with teaching about feelings, but I suspect they are the minority.

What I’m trying to say is that I don’t think it’s just having particularly stupid or superstitious or defensive or authoritarian caretakers that has given us such negative messages about anger, it’s the global cultural context within which those messages had and continue to have so much more power.

I learned not only that anger was bad, but that all feelings were bad. I didn’t even know I had feelings let alone be able to label or understand them. I thought feelings were behaviours, that crying was bad behaviour, that being scared was shameful behaviour, that not feeling 100% fine and peachy keen when being treated badly was REALLY bad behaviour. The point being that the messages I got weren’t overt or open – I wasn’t told that anger for instance was evil, I got the message that I WAS EVIL for feeling angry (for instance). I was attacked into whatever I was feeling without knowing it was a feeling. For me, feelings didn’t exist independently of who I was. Hard to describe this actually so I’ll stop trying...

I know for me that I have a really hard time accepting feeling angry. I work hard at letting myself both feel and try and express it, but it’s always accompanied by a terrifying feeling of paranoia – my feeling angry at someone is ipso facto going to incur THEIR anger and retribution on me, and when it’s global (as in culturally, everyone frowns on overt expressions of anger and even on passive aggressive expressions of it) then that kind of internal defensive fear can turn into full blown paranoia. Classic projection but with a terrifyingly realistic aspect to it – other people DO retaliate and respond with their own anger, at the least they respond with dislike and judgement and defensiveness…

I don’t know how it is for others here trying to deal with feeling angry, I suspect that it’s not just childhood messages that we’re trying to deal with, but general moral and social ones too, and that all makes anger the big bad wolf of emotions. We need courses in anger expression, not anger management Frowner. Keep it in and it destroys you, let it out and it antagonizes others who in turn also destroy you. We need a way of learning to accept and express anger safely and with impunity. Anyone got any ideas?

LL
Yes, yes and yes. Not only by my care givers but by society as well. Anger was never a tolerated emotion, well not through the way I viewed the world anyway, which would have been a reflection of what I was taught. The church taught me about peace and that anger was bad. Society, church, and family all taught me that I was never to be angry at someone else. If ever I blamed someone for something I was taught to look at my hand....while I am pointing one finger toward the person I was blaming there were another 3 fingers pointing right back at me. I was taught to take ownership of "my" mistakes, so I guess I turned every mistake into "my" mistake even if it wasn't. CSA for example was "my" mistake, and so being brought up to believe I can't be angry or its wrong to be angry, the anger came out towards myself, because that was acceptable. Nobody could see it anyway. It was in a way admired if a person could take ownership for "their" problem and not point fingers. I think for me to seperate blame and anger is almost impossible. The other aspect of anger in my own home environment was that it was shown in an aggressive way. You see I was not allowed to be angry, but my father could be angry, and so I also saw it as this uncontrolled emotion where people got hurt. So how could anger be good right? Being angry at myself or hurting myself seemed right, hurting or being angry with someone else seemed wrong. If they were angry with me however I turned it into "I must have done something to deserve that response", so at times I justified that anger. It was always OK to be angry with myself but never anybody else. Still today, most of you know that T left me without a word - no explanation whatsoever, and I am sooooo hurt, but do you know I'm not angry with her, I'm angry with myself. I blame myself - not her, yet in the back of my head I know it was wrong for her to not tell me why or give me a reason for her terminating my therapy, especially since I begged her, but the moment any anger toward her creeps into my veins, I remember the 3 fingers pointing back at myself and I take ownership for something that I can't even figure out.

B2W

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