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I know there is a lot of sadness, hurt and strife around here lately but even before that it seems that very few people were actually sharing their session experiences and I find that helps more than just about any other kind of post. At least for me it's helpful.

I have not posted much lately because I have been dealing with some health issues and it has distracted and exhausted me. I am also aware it could be triggering for some so I have kept a low profile. In general terms I have to report to the hospital on Wednesday for a procedure that requires general anaesthesia for a female health concern.

I have also spent the last 10 days with my T away on vacation (he's back today and I saw him). It was difficult having him away while I had to go for my pre-admission tests although he was available by email and was very supportive. I missed him very much while he was gone. He has been absolutely perfect in helping me deal with my anxiety and fears surrounding this issue and is very comfortable discussing women's health issues. He did part of his training in a hospital setting so he also has some medical perspective.

So today, his first day back, we sat together and talked about how I feel about this procedure, why it is triggering me so badly and what I expect from it. He gave me his perspective of being in the OR with patients who needed him to be there (during his training in neuropsychology). He was kind and very empathic and understanding. I know I was struggling to stay present but he kept grounding me and asking me to look at him because he wanted me to take in his non-verbals which are important to me.

We talked about how during my last surgery my oldT was trying to terminate me and how after just 4 days out of surgery when I made a huge effort to get to my session (he was leaving for a 3 week vacation the next day) he terminated me and then had me dragged to the Crisis Center by the police. So, yes, I do have a scary feeling about when I return to see my T on Thursday (if I can make it there). I also had complications from the surgery which was frightening but I had no T at that time. I was traumatized emotionally while at the same time my body was sick. It was a terrible time for me and we talked about how that has influenced my experience of hosptials and how oldT contaminated it for me.

As we were getting towards the end of the session I stopped and got quiet and told my T I needed to ask him for something and I was afraid he would get mad at me. He said that I would have to ask to find out. So I asked if he would be okay with holding my hand for a few seconds just so I could have that experience and that feeling to take with me before I go under. I hastened to add that it is just like shaking my hand (which he does) but without the up and down stuff Smiler He smiled and said he thinks he understand the concept I need to add here that my T and I had a huge disruption over a year ago regarding touch. He will shake my hand and sometimes he pats my arm or shoulder when I leave but that is IT.

And so he wheeled his chair closer to me and held out his hand. My T has very big hands. I put my hand into his and closed my eyes just trying to take in and memorize the feeling. I immediately felt a sense of peace and safety decend over me. Safety and protection. Precious things that have been in very short supply in my life. My hand felt small in his large one. In fact, I told him that I don't even want to talk. He replied that he was not saying anything. I opened my eyes and then pulled my hand away. I thought maybe I had "overstayed". We looked at each other and then he held out his hand again and I took it again and we just sat there like that for maybe another ten seconds. I knew that I would retain the feeling and experience of him holding my hand for a very long time.

We finished up the session and he reassured me that he would be there for me when I returned and that he was not oldT and not leaving me. He told me I could contact him whenever i needed to over the next few days.

I'm still anxious but having him with me makes such a difference and having him be open to the touch that I asked for and needed has taken our relationship to a whole new level of trust and emotional intimacy. I feel like I am the most blessed person in the world.

Thanks for listening and reading
TN
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WOW TN.

That description of T holding your hand! Far out. That tugged at me deep inside. I ***KNOW*** just how much you have been in turmoil about touch and hugging with your T.

My T and I hug, but your description and experience is more meaningful that any touch I get from her. I can only wish to feel something deep inside like you describe. You truly are blessed and I am so happy for you. Really so happy.

I also know your story well and know how the procedure and past trauma with OLD T was interlinked and very ugly. It must be so reparative to be able to go to this procedure (altho any procedure is horrible) and to have your T so supportive and so well, perfect.

I don't think I could ask my T to hold my hand. It just feels wrong asking a female T to hold hands - is that weird for others or just me????

I too would have reacted as you did and to pull away - but how wonderful for him to offer his hand again. I am so glad he did that.

Thanks for your story TN, it has given me some courage for my session tomorrow.

Somedays
((((TN))))

I love that he gave you what you needed in the moment. I had a similar experience with my T and agree about the power of touch. That really was an amazing trust-building experience. I'm sure you must have been TERRIFIED to ask but you did anyway. You were so brave and he came through for you. Hope you are feeling okay.
TN,

You were so courageous to ask your T to hold your hand. I am so impressed with you both. I know you are glad your level of trust reached this pinnacle before another medical procedure. You remained fully present for that beautiful moment and I hope that memory lingers throughout your upcoming procedure. The whole story brought tears to my eyes.

DR
TN, good on you for asking for what you need.

I am really glad you opened up with the observation about the scarcity of session stories lately. I learn so much from those. I have my session tomorrow and I am going to try and be as courageous as you. I am not going to ask T for anything but I am going to tell her something that is extremely shameful to me. Thank you for the push.

Good luck with your procedure. My thoughts are with you.
TN if you don't mind can i just say something that flashed back to my memory? i kind of broke it off with my T last november. my feelings were just too intense. Frowner when i stood up to leave, he was waiting at the door for me. although i inferred that i was leaving for good, he said something about a therapy vacation (bless his heart). i approached him and it was all slow motion. i truly felt like i was 5. we'd only shook hands once before at the beginning of therapy. i reached out my hand and glanced at him and he had a big smile. and i looked at his hands as he offered them and he wrapped them both around mine. the flashback is that he enveloped my hand with both of his. and they were big and warm and nice. your post just brought this out of me. yesterday i would have told you that we shook hands, but now i'm telling you that he took my one hand in both of his and it was like being hugged in a good way when i was 5.
CD that made me very teary to hear. Yes, it was very much like that for me too. I felt little and my T was/is my protector. I love him for that.

Si, anch'io sono italiana. And I love Italian musica.

Thank you all for the nice posts and support and for telling me I gave some of you courage to try new things in therapy.

I'm sorry I have to brief here. I have the procedure tomorrow and need to get to bed. I'll be back when I can.

Hugs to all
TN
You know you're so lucky TN. My T doesn't feel like a protector of my china doll self, in fact he seems to hurt and enrage her instead. I am at a loss at how to move past it and I hate to keep going on about it because I'm sure it's annoying to hear me whine about the same things endlessly but it's driving me right to the edge and I don't know what to do. I think deep down I just want my mum
TN

Your original post gave me a lot to think about as I have shared your journey closely over the past 2 years. You described the moment of when your T and you held hands and you tried to imprint the feeling, then pulled away and tried again. You said you were at a new level of relationship with him. I told my T about it too. It has been rattling around in my head.

I am going through a very hard time with my T's vacation looming. I am not coping at all well with it. With some negative coping strategies happening all the time. My T is well aware of the impact her vacation and other major stressors in my life is having on me.

Last week we had a very tough session where I left very distressed, dissociated and in a bad mental state, that maintained a bad space for many days. The next session - we chose to get out and to not do therapy. Today was back together but we were at a gentle pace. T obviously got the message that she had pushed me too far.

The session today was good, talked through difficult stuff, I cried a little, but I left and felt like I was full of regret and that the time to wait to see her again and to discuss a particular issue with her seemed urgent.

I sat in my car for an hour, then called her office and discovered that she was free within minutes. I had just read your post where you wrote "I gave some of you courage to try new things in therapy". It felt like someone was yelling that in my ear.

I walked back and awkwardly, weirdly, bizarrely opened the door - as I only left 1 hour before... - and said I had forgotten something. because it wasn't a usual session, i sat on the edge of the seat and T was right next to me. Very different. I was crying a lot (unusual for me) and I said that i had to talk about something that has taken 2 yrs to talk about and that i needed to do it. I said that TN's post prompted me to have courage to do something different.

Anyway my T was amazing. She knew how hard it was. I was crying a lot, she asked me what did i need right then, did i want her to move closer, for her to touch me, to hug, or to move away or what. It was so different. I was sitting with my head low crying and shielding my face from her and she was right next to me. I told her I felt like it wasn't happening and i was out of my body.

I didn't end up having the courage to fully do what I needed to do - but I made a huge leap. I stayed for an hour and even the rest of the stuff we spoke about - was at a new deeper level of discussion and I revealed more to her. It was raw and honest and I have struggled for years to trust and to talk.

It was kind of a breakthrough.

And I have you to thank TN.
Thank you.
Somedays.
PS: MY T thanks you too.
SD, good for you! I am thinking TN's post is a little like fairy dust that she sprinkled on the forum. I, too, told my T something I never thought I could. I believe it to be huge for me to start on this path of discussion with her. I have been with her off and on for forever and it is the first time down this path. I need to go there, it's imperative. I know in my bones,I need to.

TN, thanks again for the dose of courage. Hoe you doing well.
Hi all... just an update to say I'm back here again. My procedure went well and I got good news from the doctor today that the lab tests came back with all "benign". I do still have the symptoms that sent me to the doctor in the first place (which continue to panic me even though I know there is now no disease present) and the doc told me that it could take as much as a week for those to subside. I hope they DO subside and soon. I still feel somewhat tired so I have not been to work for the past few days... although I did manage to go see my T yesterday.

Throughout the process my T has been really supportive, warm and kind. We have exchanged a few emails and phone calls. He is well aware that this series of events so closely mirrors the period of time when oldT abandoned me and he keeps reminding me that this time is different and will have a different outcome. Because of this I had some negative fallout out from yesterday's session. I so much wanted to see T after the hospitalization but was scared. I now understand I was locked into an emotional flashback of the trauma caused by oldT after my surgery. So I distanced myself from my T and was dissociated in most of the session. Then I panicked last night because he felt "gone" from my head. It was like I knew he was somewhere but I could not access him or keep his presence in my head/heart for security and comfort. So I felt empty. That has not happened for a long time. So I emailed him last night a crazy teary email and he wrote back a nice reply this morning and invited me to call him in the afternoon. We spoke for about ten minutes and worked through what happened yesterday. He is understanding and amazing and has shown me nothing but the best care.

I am feeling emotionally better now. I hope I will soon feel physically well too.

GE...does your T talk about your child or address that issue? My T is kind to her and has always told me he would protect me/us but it took a long time of experiencing that protection to really be able to take it in that he was safe. He even protects me from his wife's presence in the office. While he cannot divulge anything to me due to boundaries... I am pretty sure he has told her to be out of sight while I'm around. I have never seen her there. (I am the one who freaks out about her having an office there due to being hurt by oldT's wife). Do you have any idea what would make your child feel more safe? Maybe you could try to talk to T about it or have "her" talk to him. My child has written some letters to my T (written with my non-dominant hand) and he loved that. It's my way of letting her speak.

SD... oh my and I feel so honored that my story could inspire you or anyone to step out and take some risks or try something new and different. I was teary reading your post and proud of the courage you showed to approach a difficult topic with your T. I am so thrilled that you felt you reached a new and deeper level with T and that it was good and okay. That is where the real work gets done. I am glad I could inspire you but you did the hard work. Sending you lots of hugs for a job well done and tell your T I said she is very welcome.

Hi puppet...thank you for the hugs... they are always welcome and your wishes for my speedy recovery. It made me happy to see you on my thread. I hope you are doing okay.

Hi Becca...I LOVE hearing about the fairy dust. I would love to sprinkle it all over my dear friends here on the board. I am proud that you could take something from me and use it to further and deepen your own therapy. That is what this Board is all about. Hugs to you.

RT thank you for saying I'm brave. I am lucky that I have such a great T who makes being brave a bit easier.

Hi Starfishy...thanks. That touch was SO powerful and healing. I can still feel my hand in his big, warm, protective safe hand. It was an amazing moment.

hi CD... thank for reading my story and for your kind words. They are appreciated and they helped me. And that you for sharing your story with me about your T taking your hands. I did feel small too and it was a touching moment. I think you understand.

Liese...I wasn't sure he would give it to me but I had to try it. I did it early so we could process it if he said no. But he never hesitated.

DR...the memory of that hand holding was a big part in comforting me before my procedure. It was very powerful. I knew it would be so I had to ask.

Thank you all again
Hugs
TN

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